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Unwashed Village / Re: The Presidential Debatabacle
« on: October 11, 2016, 05:14:52 AM »
Well, I'll come to Hillary's defense a bit. I don't believe she has engaged in criminal activities; every time they are investigated, nothing comes of it other than a 'stern warnng' once. Most of the actions against her have been deemed unfounded. The Republican mantra of 'Crooked Hillary' has been repeated enough times that it apparently has significant traction.
Every time I read something about her (Clinton Foundation, emails, Benghazi, etc) that seems exceptionally damaging, I do a serious amount of research on it.
And virtually every time it is smoke and mirrors; the Republicans have a smear campaign against her matched only by the one they had against Obama.
The worst I could find about her was that she made some errors in judgement (even though she had recommendations from Colin Powell) that resulted in some lower classified emails that COULD (but didn't) have some security ramifications. I've often wondered about her IT people, and the little I found out was not encouraging. In fact, one of them was called to some Congressional hearing and took the fifth.
But even if you don't buy into those arguments, then just listen only to the comments by the candidates themselves. The only way (in my opinion) you could support Trump then is because of an intense (and unfounded) hatred of either Hillary or the Democrats
Sidebar on Classified Documents:
For years, I held a Top Secret clearance; in fact, even the level of clearance I had was classified. One of the stranger side-effects of that clearance was that I was unable to fly over Communist Countries for seven years after I was no longer in a position that required that clearance. And in all my years in the military and as a private contractor, I NEVER ONCE saw a document tagged with the letter 'C' that indicated it was Confidential; classified documents that I saw were always clearly labeled "CONFIDENTIAL" (the lowest level), "SECRET" or "TOP SECRET". This whole issue of her not knowing that the 'C' tag on some emails meant "CONFIDENTIAL" is completely understandable to me and only a very minor breach of security.
OK, yeh, I guess I am a Hillary supporter.
Every time I read something about her (Clinton Foundation, emails, Benghazi, etc) that seems exceptionally damaging, I do a serious amount of research on it.
And virtually every time it is smoke and mirrors; the Republicans have a smear campaign against her matched only by the one they had against Obama.
The worst I could find about her was that she made some errors in judgement (even though she had recommendations from Colin Powell) that resulted in some lower classified emails that COULD (but didn't) have some security ramifications. I've often wondered about her IT people, and the little I found out was not encouraging. In fact, one of them was called to some Congressional hearing and took the fifth.
But even if you don't buy into those arguments, then just listen only to the comments by the candidates themselves. The only way (in my opinion) you could support Trump then is because of an intense (and unfounded) hatred of either Hillary or the Democrats
Sidebar on Classified Documents:
For years, I held a Top Secret clearance; in fact, even the level of clearance I had was classified. One of the stranger side-effects of that clearance was that I was unable to fly over Communist Countries for seven years after I was no longer in a position that required that clearance. And in all my years in the military and as a private contractor, I NEVER ONCE saw a document tagged with the letter 'C' that indicated it was Confidential; classified documents that I saw were always clearly labeled "CONFIDENTIAL" (the lowest level), "SECRET" or "TOP SECRET". This whole issue of her not knowing that the 'C' tag on some emails meant "CONFIDENTIAL" is completely understandable to me and only a very minor breach of security.
OK, yeh, I guess I am a Hillary supporter.
