Unwashed Village
General Discussion => Unwashed Village => Topic started by: Brugdor on November 07, 2008, 11:55:04 PM
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http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6201900&page=1
Obama's pick for his Chief of Staff was the director of Freddie Mac for 13 months during the scandal. New administration so very different from the old administration. ::)
President-elect Barack Obama's newly appointed chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, served on the board of directors of the federal mortgage firm Freddie Mac at a time when scandal was brewing at the troubled agency and the board failed to spot "red flags," according to government reports reviewed by ABCNews.com.
More at link
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Just once in your life post something fucking positive.
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Just once in your life post something fucking positive.
Double plus ungood.
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Just once in your life post something fucking positive.
In the debate forum? :inquisitive:
Tell ya what, if Obama appoints someone not connected to a crooked company that's paid him off I'll post it here but A) that's unlikely to happen and B) what would we debate about it?
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Tell ya what, if Obama appoints someone not connected to a crooked company that's paid him off
Your assumptions are incredible (at best).
Naive, bigoted, and far-fetched is more accurate.
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Tell ya what, if Obama appoints someone not connected to a crooked company that's paid him off
Your assumptions are incredible (at best).
Naive, bigoted, and far-fetched is more accurate.
Heh, second time I've been called a racist because I criticized "The One". Rational arguments out the window it seems. Can you defend his appointment of this guy or are you just going to call me a bigot?
Oh that's right, I forgot that only Republicans are corrupt and The One is going to bring change. So totally ignore that he's following in their footsteps. It must all be a mistake for The One can't possibly be just another crooked politician. The One is going to bring rainbows and unicorns from on high that will magically alight on our rooftops and leave enough money in our homes to pay for our mortgage and gas. ::)
By the way, holding Obama to a different standard because he is black is racist. Holding him to the same standard isn't.
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Tell ya what, if Obama appoints someone not connected to a crooked company that's paid him off
Your assumptions are incredible (at best).
Naive, bigoted, and far-fetched is more accurate.
Heh, second time I've been called a racist because I criticized "The One". Rational arguments out the window it seems. Can you defend his appointment of this guy or are you just going to call me a bigot?
Oh that's right, I forgot that only Republicans are corrupt and The One is going to bring change. So totally ignore that he's following in their footsteps. It must all be a mistake for The One can't possibly be just another crooked politician. The One is going to bring rainbows and unicorns from on high that will magically alight on our rooftops and leave enough money in our homes to pay for our mortgage and gas. ::)
By the way, holding Obama to a different standard because he is black is racist. Holding him to the same standard isn't.
Get back to me when you can connect the dots.
Finnish, Rutabaga Casserole
Ingredients:
1- medium rutabaga
1-2 eggs
1 -teaspoon salt
3/4 cup sugar
1/2 cup milk
1- tablespoon flour
butter
bread or cracker crumbs
Directions:
Peel and cut up the rutabaga and cook in
water, till done
Drain and mash while hot..
Add 1 or 2 beaten eggs,sugar, salt flour and milk.Mix well and bake in a buttered casserole dish for 35 minutes at 350 degrees...after dotting with butter and crumbs.
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Tell ya what, if Obama appoints someone not connected to a crooked company that's paid him off
Your assumptions are incredible (at best).
Naive, bigoted, and far-fetched is more accurate.
Heh, second time I've been called a racist because I criticized "The One". Rational arguments out the window it seems. Can you defend his appointment of this guy or are you just going to call me a bigot?
Oh that's right, I forgot that only Republicans are corrupt and The One is going to bring change. So totally ignore that he's following in their footsteps. It must all be a mistake for The One can't possibly be just another crooked politician. The One is going to bring rainbows and unicorns from on high that will magically alight on our rooftops and leave enough money in our homes to pay for our mortgage and gas. ::)
By the way, holding Obama to a different standard because he is black is racist. Holding him to the same standard isn't.
I did NOT call you a racist, nor do I think you are. I called you 'bigoted' as it pertains to your strong left wing/right wing views.
And you only get a recipe when you peg my Stupid Meter.
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Finnish, Rutabaga Casserole
for some reason...this came to mind
Dump out the Yucky Stuff
Performed by: Boober with Gobo and Wembley
Oh how I wish,
I could just swish up,
That one special dish,
That they thought was delish.
But when I make something terrif,
They pass out with only one whiff.
And they say,
Take it away.
Throw the stuff out.
Where there's a will,
There is always some doubt.
It may not be finished,
But why mess about?
It's probably yucky for sure.
This soup's over done.
That puree's too lumpy.
My ring mold's too jumpy.
My cakes way a ton.
The turnip pie's burnt or it's raw.
The souffle just walked through the door.
And so it's,
Take it away.
Throw the stuff out.
Where there's a will,
There is always some doubt.
It may not be finished,
But why mess about?
Ah, it's probably yucky for sure.
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I did NOT call you a racist, nor do I think you are. I called you 'bigoted' as it pertains to your strong left wing/right wing views.
Ok so what is right wing about me wanting Obama to appoint uncorrupted people to his administration? I said during the election that I didn't like either McCain or Obama because they were owned by corporate money. I said my major concern with Palin was her ties to corporate money when she supposedly was a reformer as well. I even started out way back at the beginning saying how I favored Obama out of the Democrats because he was newer to politics and less likely to be owned by corporate money. My view changed as I found out more about him and the corruption in his past. How am I being inconsistent on this point at all in favor of one side or the other?
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More appointments for lobbyists! Yay America! (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/14/AR2008111403922_pf.html)
Barack Obama campaigned on a pledge to change Washington, vowing to upend the K Street lobbying culture he encountered when he joined the U.S. Senate.
But more than a dozen members of President-elect Obama's fast-growing transition team have worked as federally registered lobbyists within the past four years. They include former lobbyists for the nation's trial lawyers association, mortgage giant Fannie Mae, drug companies such as Amgen, high-tech firms such as Microsoft, labor unions and the liberal advocacy group Center for American Progress.
Mark Gitenstein, one of the 12 transition board members who will play a significant role in shaping the Obama administration, worked on million-dollar lobbying contracts with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and promoted legislation for giant defense contractors Boeing and General Dynamics. Until this fall, he was registered to petition Congress and the Securities and Exchange Commission on behalf of AT&T, Merrill Lynch, KPMG, Ernst & Young and others.
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In a 2007 speech, he said he was "running to tell the lobbyists in Washington that their days of setting the agenda are over. They have not funded my campaign. They won't work in my White House."
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And of course I can't pass up the opportunity to post about Hillary as Secretary of State. I'll just let Blue Dog Dem Kirsten Powers speak for me here as I agree with almost everything she says at the link.
Just a reminder of who she is from her wiki entry - Originally from Fairbanks, Alaska, Powers served in the Clinton administration as the Deputy Assistant U.S. Trade Representative for Public Affairs and was the Vice President for International Communications at America Online. Later she was a Vice President at the AOL-Time Warner Foundation.
Powers has worked for the New York State Democratic Committee, was the press secretary for Andrew Cuomo for Governor and Communications Director on the mayoral campaign of C. Virginia Fields. She also worked on the "Vote No on 3" campaign which overwhelmingly defeated Mayor Michael Bloomberg's ballot initiative to eliminate party primaries. Powers was also the press secretary for the Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chair race of Donnie Fowler. She has consulted for a variety of non-profit organizations including Human Rights First and the National Council for Research on Women (NCRW).
The link - http://www.nypost.com/seven/12012008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/theyre_ba_a_ack_141654.htm
Excerpt -
So what will happen when the inevitable policy disagreement arises - say, on talking to Iran - between the Obama and Clinton camps? Before you can say, "leak," the Clinton's side of the story will be all over the press, making the president look weak.
Candidate John Kerry learned this lesson in 2004 after bringing on some Clinton aides to save his campaign. Within days, he was humiliated by a story in The New York Times about how he had called Bill Clinton - recuperating from surgery in the hospital - to get advice about how to run his campaign.
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So as it turns out Obama may not make unicorns and rainbows (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16292.html) appear as he walks on water.
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So as it turns out Obama may not make unicorns and rainbows (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16292.html) appear as he walks on water.
Then... I shall make it happen.
The rainbow is behind the unicorn... just out of view.
(http://www.faithmouse.com/obama_victory_unicorn.jpg)
Obama Victory Unicorn (http://faithmouse.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-victory-unicorn.html)
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The rainbow is behind the unicorn... just out of view.
None of your liberal excuses. We were promised rainbows!
;)
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So let's talk about Blago in regards to Obama.
FIrst, everything that's come out so far indicates Obama and his people did the right thing. It appears his people were asked to pony up a job for Blago if Blago appointed a person Obama preferred to his old senate seat and they rebuked Blago by turning him into the feds. So kudos to them if all of that turns out to be true.
However, Obama and his folks have already been caught in a lie over whether Obama had talked to the governor or not about who would take Obama' seat. Obama said yesterday that he hadn't talked to the governor. Senior adviser Axelrod (Obama's Karl Rove) said on Nov 23rd in a video interview on Fox that Obama had talked to him. I credit this to Obama immediately going into the same CYA tap dance that he's done everytime his ties to questionable people have been brought to light. It's his immediate reflex to pretend that people who have been friends for years are people he barely knows. In other words, there's nothing to the story that's particularly damaging to Obama. He was just being Obama.
However as the investigation into Blago and his people goes forward it will be interesting to see exactly how far the spider web of corruption spreads. Some of the people indicted have pled guilty which means they'll be singing for shorter sentences. It is possible for a politician that came up through the system in Chicago to come out of the other side of an investigation like that looking squeaky clean? We may soon find out.
Lastly, another mistake by Axelrod definitely has him looking like Karl Rove.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16395.html
In a 2005 op-ed, Axelrod argued, in effect, that trading political favors – including jobs – is part of the grease that makes government work.
He ripped Fitzgerald at the time for trying “to use the criminal code to enforce (his) vision” of “entirely remov(ing) politics from government.”
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Yeah, being from Illinois it's really interesting.
I think the main issue Barack has is that he is from what could be argued to be the most corrupt state political system in the nation. Which means there is no way he can be squeaky clean even if he tries. He has to lie down with dogs because it's part of the job. He's going to be waking up with fleas. It's unavoidable. However, the matter is, how hard did he try to avoid the fleas, or did he embrace the fleas.
In other words, you could be the most honest person in the world, and there is no way you can avoid the filth that is Illinois political pool. However, you can definitely try your damndest to stay in the shallow end. It'll be interesting to see what happens. I'm leaning toward's Obama's feet being able to touch ground in this, but I won't be overly shocked if he's revealed to be treading water or actively drowning.
Now I don't think any politician is squeaky clean anyway. So an Illinois politician at there best, is little worse than any other politician. But an Illinois politician at their worst, is something to be afraid of.
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Now I don't think any politician is squeaky clean anyway. So an Illinois politician at there best, is little worse than any other politician. But an Illinois politician at their worst, is something to be afraid of.
You know the funny thing I was talking to my mother about last night is that Blago did very little that was different from every other politician we have in this country. All of them expect these "favors" to be passed to them in exchange for votes, support of policies, appointments, etc and so on. Blago was just a bit more forceful about it and happened to be caught on tape.
Not that I think all of that is ok like Axelrod said in the link I provided. I think it sucks and should be illegal no matter how forceful the person getting the kickback is.
Also, I was shocked when my mother turned on Rachel Maddow (sp?) last night and she brought up Axelrod's contradictory statement in that interview. I've never watched her show but I was very pleased to see it wasn't completely one sided like Olbermann's is.
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*looks at this cartoon and signals a touchdown*
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The new White House Press Secretary sounds a lot like his predecessors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-4qEz1vea0
Transparency? Not so much.