Thoughts on Moving the UV to be part of "The Vault" community.

[TK]

Don't worry it's a UV tradition to run for the hills at the slightest sign of a dust cloud, eventually people return.  Usually with a brass band.

It's a bit like Hotel California people leave all the time but they never truly check out, we still have Turjans stuff here buried under Petrarchs and Headbytes chair keeps finding a way to the top of the pile regardless of how deeply we put the ashes.

[Sandru]

Headbytes chair keeps finding a way to the top of the pile regardless of how deeply we put the ashes.

That's cause Tink still has it

[Desolo]

Any word on this situation?

[AcdQueen89]

We're waiting for someone to take down the bug zappers, don't want to singe tink's wings.

[GuardianOfTheWastes]

Would it help get this moving along if I talked to Curse and discussed options a little further (moving it from theory) or would you rather draw the line as 'nice idea, but no thanks'? How's the admin discussion going?

[BlueCross]

Would it help get this moving along if I talked to Curse and discussed options a little further (moving it from theory) or would you rather draw the line as 'nice idea, but no thanks'? How's the admin discussion going?

Welcome to the 'real' Village. 

We mean no harm but chaos follows in our wake.

[Hoopy Frood]

Would it help get this moving along if I talked to Curse and discussed options a little further (moving it from theory) or would you rather draw the line as 'nice idea, but no thanks'? How's the admin discussion going?

The main concern among the admins seems to be about possibly losing our identity and how much boost in traffic we'll actually get.

[TK]

I suppose it depends on how visible we are from the wiki and if we can be worked in to the wiki entries and general fallout history.  The other thing we need to ask is what a loss of identity actually means; being part of a larger Fallout related entity may rejuvenate some of the original character of the unwashed village, whether a step back is entirely positive is something we can debate. 

The other thing we need to ask is what kind of identity we will lose, we've not been able to invest the time in creating an identity since moving to this board and I feel that we're slipping into an apathetic decline, so is that really a great loss?

The identity of the village is largely tied up in the people who inhabit it and the relationship between them.  Bonds have been formed and broken so often and people have drifted apart in a number of ways so perhaps the incidental new villagers we'll gain in the vault will serve to establish new bonds and create a buzz that'll draw some of our members back to us.

How much hassle would it be to weave our history into the vault?  Perhaps even as a first step, does anybody have a collection of member created stories we could submit? Turjan seems to have gone AWOL and he had a large collection of these as far as I remember.

[BlueCross]

apathetic decline

*nods*

[GuardianOfTheWastes]

I suppose it depends on how visible we are from the wiki and if we can be worked in to the wiki entries and general fallout history.  The other thing we need to ask is what a loss of identity actually means; being part of a larger Fallout related entity may rejuvenate some of the original character of the unwashed village, whether a step back is entirely positive is something we can debate. 

The other thing we need to ask is what kind of identity we will lose, we've not been able to invest the time in creating an identity since moving to this board and I feel that we're slipping into an apathetic decline, so is that really a great loss?

The identity of the village is largely tied up in the people who inhabit it and the relationship between them.  Bonds have been formed and broken so often and people have drifted apart in a number of ways so perhaps the incidental new villagers we'll gain in the vault will serve to establish new bonds and create a buzz that'll draw some of our members back to us.

How much hassle would it be to weave our history into the vault?  Perhaps even as a first step, does anybody have a collection of member created stories we could submit? Turjan seems to have gone AWOL and he had a large collection of these as far as I remember.

I'm afraid I must admit that the Vault is an encyclopaedia, and as such the admin team wouldn't even consider letting you add stories nor to weave stories into the main space, but there is nothing stopping you adding them to your own userspaces and linking from the message boards to there. Alternatively, we could add an 'advert' for the UV somewhere on each page I'm sure. Of course, it is possible for you to, as previously suggested, set up a wiki and that would solve the issue of stories and their visibility.

As for the rest of it, I agree with your hints. No matter the discussion about losing identity, the majority of it is being lost already, and those who come in search of the UV thanks to FO2 are finding a husk of what it once was, with the people here seeking days they can't ever get back, hence a steady decline. I believe you are right and that an injection of fresh blood would lively up the place. Of course, it is possible for you to, as previously suggested, set up a wiki and that would solve the issue of stories and their visibility.

[Hoopy Frood]

And having the additional visibility from being connected to the wiki would likely help inject fresh blood into the place, something that would go a long way toward reviving the community.

[GuardianOfTheWastes]

I honestly think it would, and that's why I came up with the idea. Would you guys like me to do anything regarding contacting Curse then? I think it's the next logical step in helping make a decision if nothing else.

[KMD]

Do it and be done with it. I'll transition if we go soon, but im not going to stick around much longer.

[Hoopy Frood]

Yes, talk to Curse.

[GuardianOfTheWastes]

Do it and be done with it. I'll transition if we go soon, but im not going to stick around much longer.

Okay, I'll try and do it as fast as humanly possible then, I don't want to lose people. I've already started talking to Ausir, Vault founder and Curse employee, so we'll see