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The Amusing Disaster of Fallout: The Frontier
« on: January 28, 2021, 05:36:18 AM »
Let me paint a picture for you.  A game in development for seven years, almost a decade, being hyped for that entire period.  The hype builds up near the release... a 2020 release date looms closer and closer.  There are a couple of delays, but people still have a fair amount of confidence in the final product.  Then, as the release is just around the corner, a few rumors come out... things sound bad.  But there's not enough time to react.  The game releases.  Then it all comes crashing down, as the entire gaming world discovers what a piece of shit was in the oven all this time.  Its taken off of big platforms, and this once hyped project has been reduced to little more than a joke.  Now imagine that after the release of Cyberpunk 2077, the exact same thing happens again except way funnier.

The Sexy Lizards

We knew a lot about the Frontier before its release.  We knew about the various factions and motivations, knew about the vehicles and all that.  But we did not know that there was going to be a race of horny lizards.  And there was.  There was a race of horny lizards.   They have sex with each other in a vault, they are horny lizards.  This is some very weird fetish stuff, and I do not like it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWXmkx4Vsn0  The team actually tried to hide this aspect of the game, there was hardly any mention of it.  Makes sense they'd be embarrassed by this.  Hmm, I wonder who made that part of the mod...

The Pedophile Furry Developer

One of the Developers is a pedophile and a furry.  The latter I don't really give a shit about, if you want to draw yourself as a wolf go ahead, but the pedophile part is not ideal.  In a Furaffinity post, he complains that  "art" featuring minors is banned, but he's done a lot more than complain about pedophilic furry art.  He's actually made some himself.  Not a great look for the mod, its no wonder that...

It's Been Removed From Steam and Nexus

It is now hidden from Nexus and removed from Steam.  On steam, the mod page says "Coming soon - This item is not yet available."  While this is very vague, the Nexus page describes more specifically the problem.

"Some deeply concerning news has emerged in the past few hours. We have been recently notified that one of our developers, ZuTheSkunk, had posted animated pedophillic content on their personal artist accounts. The items in question are deeply disturbing to the entire team, and we condemn them in the strongest sense. ZuTheSkunk has since been removed from the Development Team and banned off of our Community Discord. We will be conducting dialogue with members of the development team to hear their thoughts regarding the current situation and help make our decision more informed. We have stopped production and work on the mod to address the current events properly. More measures will be undertaken and a more detailed address will be posted soon.
The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed both in the mod, and outside of it, belong solely to the authors who write them, and not to the mod's organization, community, or other group or individual."

Speaking of the community discord...

The Community Discord has been Deleted

As I just discovered today, the community discord has been deleted.  There was no announcement or notification beforehand.  The discord server no longer exists.  I've been watching this discord server quite closely for a few months leading up to release.  During this time, though I was watching, I said very little.  I knew from the shit that went on in that server, that if I gave even the slightest criticism of this mod, I would be banned.

Good Riddance to the Community Discord

I do not miss the discord server, or the people on it.  It had notoriously power-drunk moderators who banned people for practically nothing.  A few bad apples ruined this project's team.  A youtuber, TKs Mantis, who has produced consistently decent fallout content for the past few years I've been following him, explained that he lost his position as a voice actor because he had Covid!  He was later banned from the discord on a whim, when complaining about, among other things, open racism on the team.  As were many other people, who were unjustly banned for civil criticisms.

Concluding Thoughts

A lot of the dialogue is terrible.  The voice acting is questionable, but I could forgive a community created mod for this.  The mod has weird foot fetish stuff in it.  Wild Wasteland undercuts the seriousness of various scenes, including a literal funeral scene.  There was a lot of work that was put into this mod, and some of the people doing that work were skilled and talented and passionate.  But now all of this work has been wasted, sucked into the garbage-eating black hole that is Fallout: The Frontier.
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Re: The Amusing Disaster of Fallout: The Frontier
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2021, 06:00:49 AM »
That's seriously fucked up.
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Re: The Amusing Disaster of Fallout: The Frontier
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2021, 08:24:36 PM »
Can people just STOP with the child fetishizing? I feel like we're at a point that we need to force every member of the general public to attend a class where they have to write 'I will not fuck kids' 10,000 on lined paper before they're allowed to leave.

I couldn't get this mod to work and was hoping a future update would fix it. Sadly it didn't. Would've liked to have seen how it turned out for myself.

It's a shame that so much work has ended due to the actions of a corrupt project head, moderators who want to play god and being unable to keep their fetishes out of it.

It sounds just like the Isle and a few other games and mods, all ended a similar way.

Maybe it'll come back, better for it, having had the weird shit removed and the perverts plucked from the Dev team but I won't hold my breath.
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Re: The Amusing Disaster of Fallout: The Frontier
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2021, 10:35:49 PM »
There is nothing that can be changed about the mod to fix the heap of garbage that was released to the public, its not anything like a "Fallout DLC," more like an unholy abomination of Call of Duty and "18th birthday" pornography.  It's not the slightest bit balanced or lore-friendly.  The NCR campaign is dozens of hours of mindless Michael Bay-esque action shooter gameplay, while the other factions barely manage to hit one tenth that quantity of content.  The dialogue feels less like genuine human interaction and more like appropriated erotic roleplay messages from discord direct messages, complimented by comically flat voice acting which often doesn't even line up with the subtitles.  If anything good is going to come from this mod, then it will be through hacking out whatever shreds of well-made content can be recovered, like pieces of scrap metal and electronics from a broken terminal, and leaving the rest of it to the dust bin of history.
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Re: The Amusing Disaster of Fallout: The Frontier
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2021, 06:50:43 PM »
I couldn't even get it to work. I installed it but the NPC that finds you at the start just never showed up.
I tried an abundance of possible fixes and was waiting for someone to find one that worked.

If anything can be taken from this mod, it's that Gamebryo/creation's dumbass NPCs should not be trusted with the important task of being the gateway into a DLC/Huge Mod! They're likely to fuck it up, by falling through the floor or hugging a deathclaw and you might end up completely fucked.
The sun beyond the mountain glows
The yellow river seaward flows
You can enjoy a grander sight
By climbing to a greater height

I have run out of places to climb. I will abandon this body and take to the air. We will leave twin vapor trails in the air, white lines etched into these rocks. I am the aerial. In my passing, I will send news to each and every star.

Mrs Brown says: 'Hapiness is an effect, not a goal.'

Charlie is yelling @barit0wned
PC: A spider laid eggs inside my body and I need to get them out before they hatch
DM: You'll need the spider's permission first...

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Re: The Amusing Disaster of Fallout: The Frontier
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2021, 05:11:14 PM »
I couldn't even get it to work. I installed it but the NPC that finds you at the start just never showed up.
I tried an abundance of possible fixes and was waiting for someone to find one that worked.

If anything can be taken from this mod, it's that Gamebryo/creation's dumbass NPCs should not be trusted with the important task of being the gateway into a DLC/Huge Mod! They're likely to fuck it up, by falling through the floor or hugging a deathclaw and you might end up completely fucked.

I never had that much hype for the Frontier, but I am looking forwards to Cascadia... I hope they don't end up with the same fate, but at least we know the warning signs now.
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Re: The Amusing Disaster of Fallout: The Frontier
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2021, 02:01:03 AM »
I couldn't even get it to work. I installed it but the NPC that finds you at the start just never showed up.
I tried an abundance of possible fixes and was waiting for someone to find one that worked.

If anything can be taken from this mod, it's that Gamebryo/creation's dumbass NPCs should not be trusted with the important task of being the gateway into a DLC/Huge Mod! They're likely to fuck it up, by falling through the floor or hugging a deathclaw and you might end up completely fucked.

I never had that much hype for the Frontier, but I am looking forwards to Cascadia... I hope they don't end up with the same fate, but at least we know the warning signs now.
Same, I was a lot more excited for Project Brazil/New California. I actually really enjoyed that one and besides a few iffy things about it, it's mostly quite good IMO.
Frontier I was willing to give a chance, it seemed fun or potentially fun but they managed to screw it up, spectacularly.

Don't know anything about Cascadia, I'll have to look into it.
The sun beyond the mountain glows
The yellow river seaward flows
You can enjoy a grander sight
By climbing to a greater height

I have run out of places to climb. I will abandon this body and take to the air. We will leave twin vapor trails in the air, white lines etched into these rocks. I am the aerial. In my passing, I will send news to each and every star.

Mrs Brown says: 'Hapiness is an effect, not a goal.'

Charlie is yelling @barit0wned
PC: A spider laid eggs inside my body and I need to get them out before they hatch
DM: You'll need the spider's permission first...

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Re: The Amusing Disaster of Fallout: The Frontier
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2021, 07:13:28 PM »
That new trailer for that Fallout: London overhaul mod for FO4 looks pretty good.
I still have the original files for The Frontier but I'm deeply saddened it's full of so much weird shit. Idk if it's something I should be proud of to still have installed...
But it'll help

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Re: The Amusing Disaster of Fallout: The Frontier
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2021, 11:15:23 PM »
Dear god its one of those train wrecks your buddies tell you about full of hookers drugs boos and drugs, and the entire time your like bull shit and they keep telling wait till we get there bro. You crest the hill and see the train wreck laided out before you. Play the game and nothing will ever be the same. Legit its extremely impressive from a technical level the story is at best silly at worst insulting to the FO fandom. Its a playable mod and you can have fun with it but the story is ass. From what I have seen from TK and others 80% of the issue is the creators team and fans are a toxic bunch of jerks. From lying, to questionable story directions, buying assets,  and raiding 4chan /v/.  just such a bizzar trip on how we got to the final destination.