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Unwashed Village / Re: Terrorist convicted - the left cries
« on: August 19, 2007, 08:13:32 PM »
The problem is this, Brugdor:
If they are lawful combatants, they should be treated as indicated in the Geneva convention. I don't think they are lawful combatants. And you can keep them until the war is over.
If they are unlawful combatants, they are entitled to a civilian trial in the country where the offense occurred.
Yet, you claim they shouldn't have a trial and that you keep them until the war of terror is over. I just don't see any shred of logic except "They're all evil terrorists and they deserve to suffer".
Like I said earlier, if you're going to use the Geneva convention as an excuse, you better actually follow it. Strangely, you can't just pick the parts you like.
If they are lawful combatants, they should be treated as indicated in the Geneva convention. I don't think they are lawful combatants. And you can keep them until the war is over.
If they are unlawful combatants, they are entitled to a civilian trial in the country where the offense occurred.
Yet, you claim they shouldn't have a trial and that you keep them until the war of terror is over. I just don't see any shred of logic except "They're all evil terrorists and they deserve to suffer".
Like I said earlier, if you're going to use the Geneva convention as an excuse, you better actually follow it. Strangely, you can't just pick the parts you like.
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Unwashed Village / Re: Terrorist convicted - the left cries
« on: August 17, 2007, 11:01:02 PM »However it's not like the people being held down there are innocent little angels that were swept up out of their beds by a dictatorship in the middle of the night. Despite what many on the left would tell you.Indeed. I mean, if the police arrest someone, they must not be angels either. So let's just lock all of them up too without trial.
As for the ones that aren't American citizens, they can rot in there. They are prisoners of war until the war is over.
The "hiding behind the Geneva convention" argument is the dumbest excuse for the Guantanamo-situation ever. First of all, when is "the war" over? When all the "terrorists" are dead? How convenient that the US decides who the terrorists are then.
Second of all, before hiding behind international conventions, try actually following them. How long did it take before allowing the Red Cross to access the detainees? And what is currently being done after the Red Cross has reported the conditions as inhumane? Not enough, that's for sure.
I can't even begin to understand the "they're not American" excuse. So it's ok for the US army to travel to another country, "arrest" random people, and detain them as POWs? After all, they're not American. That just doesn't make sense.
The whole enemy combatant/Geneva convention babble only works in traditional warfare between two nation states / alliances. That was how the original convention was intended. One of the major requirements for having POWs is that the two sides are easily determinable, typically through similar clothing/uniforms. For Guerrilla warfare, this is modified to visibly wearing weapons during military operations.
Anyone not doing so, are unlawful combatants, and loose the privileges of POWs. They still retain the rights of civilians. Meaning that to retain them, they would need a fair trial. Isn't there a hole in the logic somewhere here?
Even if we should assume that the POW argument made sense, the Geneva convention actually requires that the POWs are quartered under the same conditions as the US troops. Please just try to tell me that is the case..
It's things like this that's making the US seem more like an undeveloped country in terms of politics. (This, and not allowing neutral observers to monitor the last presidential elections)
You can argue "they deserve it" all you want, and for the majority of detainees, I might agree with you. But the "everything is according to law" argument won't pass.
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Unwashed Village / Re: Terrorist convicted - the left cries
« on: August 17, 2007, 01:06:48 PM »
I can't see why anyone could complain about this - at least he got a trial, which is more than you can say about many of the "terrorists" at Guantanamo.
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Unwashed Village / Re: Known bugs
« on: August 17, 2007, 01:03:52 PM »I've noticed that twice now someone has put an image in their post and it's bled into the previous post. I've included a pic of what's happening. BTW, I have the forum setup so newest posts are at the top. Oh and it would probably help you to know that I'm seeing this in Firefox.
I think it is either because your browser hasn't loaded the CSS properly, probably due to the host, which is being pretty unstable at the moment.
If this is the case, a simple refresh should fix it..
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Unwashed Village / Re: My mouth tastes like fish. *Patooey* Old Sushi (What are YOU eating?)
« on: August 17, 2007, 03:12:19 AM »
Right now, it appears I'm having a Mexican week. I've had Tacos, Mexican Lasagna og Chili con Carne this week. Otherwise, I usually cook up some vegetables and eat some rice+meat or pasta+meat combination.
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Unwashed Village / Re: Anyone want my Vault Boys (and one girl)?
« on: August 16, 2007, 11:58:32 PM »
I'd love to use them on the main site, but I think it's better that we avoid copyright issues.
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Unwashed Village / Re: Member rankings (Suggestions wanted)
« on: August 16, 2007, 10:39:49 PM »
Nubia is a land where everyone has an extremely short memory. Thus, every time they do something, they will seem like they're trying it for the first time.
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Unwashed Village / Re: Somehow, I can see Chucara wearing this...
« on: August 16, 2007, 10:15:05 PM »
Hmmm... Remove the lower jaw, and make me a helmet - then I'd wear it! 
Otherwise, the only leather I wear is my belt. And of course lederhosen, which all Europeans receive at the rite of passage.
Otherwise, the only leather I wear is my belt. And of course lederhosen, which all Europeans receive at the rite of passage.
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Unwashed Village / Re: WE DID IT!!
« on: August 16, 2007, 12:32:41 PM »
Congratulations! I'm very happy on your behalf. Remind me not to show this thread to my girlfriend as the "too early for marriage" argument seems to be kinda watered at the moment (two of my friends are married, three have children).
You did make one mistake, however. It is the duty of the bride to abuse her power to force the bridesmaids to wear an appalling pink outfit with huge pompoms.
Seriously though, you both beautiful and most importantly, very happy
Congrats!
You did make one mistake, however. It is the duty of the bride to abuse her power to force the bridesmaids to wear an appalling pink outfit with huge pompoms.
Seriously though, you both beautiful and most importantly, very happy
Congrats!
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Unwashed Village / Re: I hereby found the UV Cult of the Goat
« on: August 16, 2007, 01:28:59 AM »
Rule 7: All odd-numbered rules do not count.
Kif, we have a conundrum!
Kif, we have a conundrum!
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Unwashed Village / Re: Todo list for the new forum
« on: August 16, 2007, 01:16:38 AM »
I vaguely remember that
I vaguely remember that.. I'll see if I can find a script to modify, otherwise it wouldn't take me long to make one myself. (I'd like to have the advantage of using the users from the forums). But it will take a while, as I'm still working on "something".
On the main board. =) With a permalink to the story? We had one back in 2000 and it was fun. =)
I vaguely remember that.. I'll see if I can find a script to modify, otherwise it wouldn't take me long to make one myself. (I'd like to have the advantage of using the users from the forums). But it will take a while, as I'm still working on "something".
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Unwashed Village / Re: I hereby found the UV Cult of the Goat
« on: August 16, 2007, 01:14:33 AM »
Rule 6: POOFTERS!
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Unwashed Village / Re: Member rankings (Suggestions wanted)
« on: August 16, 2007, 01:10:50 AM »
Admins don't get to cheat either.. Seeing as we now have three titles. One based on posts, one decided by the board (Admin) and one decided by each member.
Just post suggestions, we'll decide on actual post counts later.. It's easier to sort that out afterwards.
Just post suggestions, we'll decide on actual post counts later.. It's easier to sort that out afterwards.