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Bad news everyone, in Ausir's words: "unfortunately it turns out that Curse isn't interested in hosting them, as much as I would like that myself. :( Ausir 22:29, 2 August 2012 (UTC)".

So, that ends this discussion on moving, so I'll go back to the drawing board and come up with something else to save this place. I'll check with one of my friends regarding NMA, and see if they would.

I must admit, if there were any problems with it, I must say that I didn't think Curse would be it, but there you are. If it stays here, I'll try to come up with something to send traffic this way still, but I don't really know right now what that will be.

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Hello Owl! I hope you remember me, cause I remember you :)

Everyone knows Owl, even lurkers like me that he's never heard of before...  ;D

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I see, after you saying that it was anthropomorphic, I asked one of them, and it turns out I had it wrong in that like you said, it's a bit of cosplay, whereas I got the impression it was finding actual animals 'attractive'. Thank God for that. I still find it creepy, but less so. Which throws the question of the inappropriate Uncle into doubt. Not having any uncles, I would imagine I could weigh up the two more easily and on a theoretical level, but still...  :laugh:

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Something worse than bestiality eh? 

Hmmmmmmmm ::)

Let me just... erm... well there's... no, not that...

Nope, I'd rather be screwed by the inappropriate uncle, although this was one of the creepier ones I ever came across. Fun bed time watching was the documentary on it...

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/bodyshock/4od#3070276

You can watch it if you are in the UK, but still the animal thing is creepier than the Scottish uncle. Now if he was a hill-billy, or that shady race, a scouse, then you should be worried...

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I'm not understanding the relationship between Curse and The Vault.

Maybe somebody can 'splain it to me.

*thinks*

unless it involves animal fetishes.

Basically, all it is is that Curse is a company, and it hosts the Vault, although we have full control over it. Until Ausir buys his own servers, that's the way it'll have to be ;). Ah, yeah, also Ausir works for Curse. And there are a few 'furries' over there, though they creep me out for the most part, and the one I talk to I never ask about that...

I can think of no worse fetish  :'(

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Do it and be done with it. I'll transition if we go soon, but im not going to stick around much longer.

Okay, I'll try and do it as fast as humanly possible then, I don't want to lose people. I've already started talking to Ausir, Vault founder and Curse employee, so we'll see :D

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I honestly think it would, and that's why I came up with the idea. Would you guys like me to do anything regarding contacting Curse then? I think it's the next logical step in helping make a decision if nothing else.

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I suppose it depends on how visible we are from the wiki and if we can be worked in to the wiki entries and general fallout history.  The other thing we need to ask is what a loss of identity actually means; being part of a larger Fallout related entity may rejuvenate some of the original character of the unwashed village, whether a step back is entirely positive is something we can debate. 

The other thing we need to ask is what kind of identity we will lose, we've not been able to invest the time in creating an identity since moving to this board and I feel that we're slipping into an apathetic decline, so is that really a great loss?

The identity of the village is largely tied up in the people who inhabit it and the relationship between them.  Bonds have been formed and broken so often and people have drifted apart in a number of ways so perhaps the incidental new villagers we'll gain in the vault will serve to establish new bonds and create a buzz that'll draw some of our members back to us.

How much hassle would it be to weave our history into the vault?  Perhaps even as a first step, does anybody have a collection of member created stories we could submit? Turjan seems to have gone AWOL and he had a large collection of these as far as I remember.

I'm afraid I must admit that the Vault is an encyclopaedia, and as such the admin team wouldn't even consider letting you add stories nor to weave stories into the main space, but there is nothing stopping you adding them to your own userspaces and linking from the message boards to there. Alternatively, we could add an 'advert' for the UV somewhere on each page I'm sure. Of course, it is possible for you to, as previously suggested, set up a wiki and that would solve the issue of stories and their visibility.

As for the rest of it, I agree with your hints. No matter the discussion about losing identity, the majority of it is being lost already, and those who come in search of the UV thanks to FO2 are finding a husk of what it once was, with the people here seeking days they can't ever get back, hence a steady decline. I believe you are right and that an injection of fresh blood would lively up the place. Of course, it is possible for you to, as previously suggested, set up a wiki and that would solve the issue of stories and their visibility.

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Would it help get this moving along if I talked to Curse and discussed options a little further (moving it from theory) or would you rather draw the line as 'nice idea, but no thanks'? How's the admin discussion going?

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Unwashed Village / Re: I am... *drum roll, please*
« on: June 15, 2012, 02:57:00 PM »
Sir Horace Pinkerton! Never seen a knight in a soap opera, but what the hey!

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   I think that merging with The Vault would be very good for the village. Although i'm not sure that I would be making the move myself.

   At the risk of being a debby downer, Its become apparent that these days BBs are all but dead. As I've seen a handful of boards (including the UV) die at the hands of facebook in the last few years. Although I still encourage the merger.

Why would you not make the transition with the UV? If there's one thing I don't want, it's to make people leave.

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I'm thinking the bungee card is too long and too limp.

(Present company excepted, of course)

Now I'm just plain lost XD

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So what I've got so far is that:

*You want to keep/move what is here over to any new site
*You want it to be a message board, not a wiki
*Protection from evil-spam-bots

Am I missing something? And what do you mean about "less accessable than what we used to have"? I could look into something similar if you direct me towards it.

If the conversation keeps like this for a bit, I'll be presenting to Curse in no time to look for solutions ;D

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What do you mean sorry? I will endevour to have the new address as unwashed.falloutwiki.com or even uv.falloutwiki.com. Is that what you mean? And yes, we'll definitely have a link back if we don't import the forum. There'd be no need to close this site, and we could definitely put the front page here as the front page for there.

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Okay, I've had a cht with Porter, and it seems that the questions are ones that we cannot know the answer to unless we begin to move forward. It's starting to get really difficult to see where this is going and people's views on it, and that means that it is difficult to answer the questions that are being directed at me. We have now got another option to present though, and that is to give you a more 'wiki' like space with the 'falloutwiki.com' domain. This has the advantages of

*More control, especially as Porter has said that what we can do with the community.falloutwiki site is actually very limited, especially as he is still not an admin there.

*The ability to add pages, which means you could write down the lore of this place and the people in it, as well as whatever else you wanted. You could even make it so that only admins could edit pages to avoid vandals.

*You could, if it's okay with Porter and I've yet to ask him, use the forum software (if you will) that he designed and ensure the wiki is centred on that.

I'm unsure of if we will be able to import this site, so it might be a case of starting anew whilst linking to here. We will be able to tell that though once we have some concrete progression and I start to talk to Curse - it's too soon for that now.

We also could give you a board on the Vault itself, which means that you would be on the site directly, but as there are already forums there, it may get lost in the mix, something we don't want.

There are some more options for you, but I would ask people to start considering more seriously - I know that sounds rude and it is asking for you to change the nature if the site for a time, but at the moment I'm getting the impression that people are against it and so they are making jokes.

I'll be staying anyway, but I hope you start to consider this offer more seriously.

EDIT: Porter tells me that it is unlikely that Curse will give us a second community site, and that it is only slow as it is going unused. He also said, to your benefit, that it is not a wiki, but rather a seperate forum. The software is this (he found it): http://www.invisionpower.com/products/board/ Lastly, it would be down to Curse not Porter to clear up the site and 'convert' it if you will, but that's not going to be an issue once you have decided what you want to do. The community site is therefore, again, the best option so I have retracted my earlier statements to the contrary. Unless you wanted a wiki...

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