Unwashed Village

General Discussion => Unwashed Village => Topic started by: Chucara on March 03, 2011, 06:31:30 PM

Title: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Chucara on March 03, 2011, 06:31:30 PM
I will leave this thread here with a link from the welcome page (now restored) so people can post ideas on how we can increase the activity level of the UV. Please post any suggestions you have below. I am willing to put some hours into bringing our online presence up to date, but I need input from the community.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: AcdQueen89 on March 03, 2011, 06:42:41 PM
iz is just happy we have a front page again
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Chucara on March 03, 2011, 06:44:07 PM
To give my own input:

- I think we need a "shtick". If asked to describe what the Unwashed Village is, I find that I am unable to describe it without ending up describing what is was.

- What is unique to the UV for me is the black/zany humour and the creativity(which sadly, is all but gone).

- If I could make a suggestion to get the activity up, it would be to start some creative task that everyone can join in on. Something simple, so no precursory skills are required, and something that doesn't take ages to contribute to or to read. Make it similar to a game.

- In my opinion, this should be related to the vast mythology that surrounds the UV. Now, I can't remember everything, but I'm sure it will be fun to try to remember. If you don't know what I'm referencing here, I'm thinking about:
- E.A.R.L.
- Fruit Wars
- Evil Tuesdays
- Alter Egos in general


Anyone else think something like this might be a good idea? Am I the only one missing the more creative side of the Unwashed? (Toons, Photos, fiction etc.)
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Sandru on March 03, 2011, 09:49:19 PM
I'm not sure what to do, honestly.

I used to be much more active many years ago, back when the UV was young and we had the old original board. Don't think I've been incredibly active since.

We may just need a new game to rally behind, but I find it generally hard to get people unless a specific board has a purpose to bring them to it, in order to keep them long enough to get them to know us so they'd stay.

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Chucara on March 04, 2011, 12:16:02 AM
Well, all of us have gotten older - it's been 11 years since I was an 18 year old and joined the Unwashed. I'm still here, but not nearly in the same way I was earlier. (I had a lot more spare time back then). It's only natural that people fade away from the board. The problem is.. we don't really have any flow of new members.

That was my point with the shtick. (Oh God, did I just write that)

If we want the community to continue, even if it isn't in the same form as before, we need something to bring people here. And right now, the "theme" is that we are all friends or varying degrees. But there is nothing to bring in fresh members.

Short of turning this into a Justin Bieber fanpage (I'll do it! I have the codes, and I'm crazy!) I'm looking for something to bring back old members as well as new ones.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: TK on March 04, 2011, 12:19:40 AM
Back then we all had a Fallout-ish backstory and used to post our stories and histories which was fun.  We've grown up as a group though so I'm not sure if that works any more, plus a fair amount of our members in the ensuing years didn't have the buzz of FO and FO2 as a live phenomenon.  Could FO3 or FNV create this buzz again?

There are elements of our past I don't want to see returning, fortunately I don't drink anymore so drunk posts will hopefully stay at a minimum.

We do have a flicker of a fruit war on the horizon though, I call yellow and blue paper hats and the Lingonberry!
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Silver Dragon on March 04, 2011, 11:50:24 AM

That was my point with the shtick. (Oh God, did I just write that)
*shakes head*  You and your pointy shtick...geez...   ::)

If we want the community to continue, even if it isn't in the same form as before, we need something to bring people here. And right now, the "theme" is that we are all friends or varying degrees. But there is nothing to bring in fresh members.
I suggest blackjack...and hookers...and a lunar lander....and ale, of course!  Or maybe just strippers...and ale, can't forget the ale...   :o

P.S. Why the hell aren't the emoticons working?!  And has anybody heard from Doomsie lately?  Or Night Owl?  They seemed to be fairly active until recently...hrmmm...
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Night Owl on March 05, 2011, 07:20:42 AM

That was my point with the shtick. (Oh God, did I just write that)
*shakes head*  You and your pointy shtick...geez...   ::)

If we want the community to continue, even if it isn't in the same form as before, we need something to bring people here. And right now, the "theme" is that we are all friends or varying degrees. But there is nothing to bring in fresh members.
I suggest blackjack...and hookers...and a lunar lander....and ale, of course!  Or maybe just strippers...and ale, can't forget the ale...   :o

P.S. Why the hell aren't the emoticons working?!  And has anybody heard from Doomsie lately?  Or Night Owl?  They seemed to be fairly active until recently...hrmmm...

I am here, and I know Jen is still around. And how are you?

I've tried to get suggestions about this very topic last year. Suggested maybe a facebook page/etc... but that doesn't have the same "feel".

Maybe nothing will ever have that feel again - it was all so new. Online forums / online friendships were "not" the norm - back in 1998, it was special. Here in 2011 (has it really been 13 years? Wow), it's just not that big a deal anymore.

Still, I have hope :)  I'm here now, ale in hand (really).
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Silver Dragon on March 05, 2011, 12:45:42 PM

I am here, and I know Jen is still around. And how are you?
I'm fine, thanks.  If I'm not working or sleeping (or marveling at the three and a half feet of snow that fell in the last couple days...it is March, right? ^_6 ), I'm playing WoW (or some other game that happened to catch my eye).  I check the board regularly, I just never have anything much to say... I'll pipe up every now and then, though!  Besides, being a dragon I tend to just sit, and watch, and blink a lot...   *blink blink*  *has flashbacks to ancient times in ICQ chats*  Ow.

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: PsychoPompos on March 05, 2011, 01:01:07 PM
If this turns into a Justin Bieber fan page i will track down the server and quite literally set it on fire.  No explanations to the owners, if they were aware they would understand.  The honest problem is that this place feels very clique-esque.  There really is nothing to draw new blood in.  The question is, even if we tried drawing new people in, how would they interact with us?  We need topics to get behind.  Major topics are pretty standard but we need to get deeper and have something of value.  Creative projects need to make a return.  The old Photoshop contests were fun at least but i haven't seen anything new here in a LONG time.

When it comes down to it, we need to enjoy it here ourselves in order to bring others in with us.  Its been sad because many members are either too busy or have been growing more conservative with their posting.  There needs to be a rebirth of randomness and humor.  I think we take ourselves a little too seriously.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Tink on March 10, 2011, 02:43:37 PM
We haven't  had a "show yourself" thread in a long while. How can we bring back board pics done in photo shop w/out pics? There's so many possibilties that would be really funny. I wish I had the time for my computer that I used to.:(
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on March 10, 2011, 06:01:27 PM
We haven't  had a "show yourself" thread in a long while. How can we bring back board pics done in photo shop w/out pics? There's so many possibilties that would be really funny. I wish I had the time for my computer that I used to.:(

Every time I start one of those 'show yourself' threads, I get slapped in the face.

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Solwyn on March 15, 2011, 08:53:46 PM
We haven't  had a "show yourself" thread in a long while. How can we bring back board pics done in photo shop w/out pics? There's so many possibilties that would be really funny. I wish I had the time for my computer that I used to.:(

Every time I start one of those 'show yourself' threads, I get slapped in the face.



(http://imgross.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/ZMFIUQFKNL2ZQGSRG5IOX5ZOQ7DTVVHS.jpeg)
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: MrWeasel on March 19, 2011, 09:54:16 PM
Well... Im still lurking around the edges (still poke my nose in every week or so)
What to do, that is another story.
Myself, i still spend alot of time playing Anarchy-Online. (and don't look at the forums there 1/2 as often as i do here)
I do think the biggest problem is that we started as a gaming forums and it took on a life of it's own. The point is we had a "purpose" that underlay everything else (simply we were a "fan" page and that was one of our biggest attractions)
The People that were attracted to that fan page is what made it special, the imagination, the stories, the pics and photo edits were all personal flavors we added over the years. As someone else pointed out we were a social network before the term was ever coined. What it means is that now we are just one of MANY and short of outright advertising we are not likely to attract members other then by word of mouth. We no longer are a "presence" on the web, though to this day i still use UV at the end of many of my game characters names and explain it when asked (mrweaseluv is strangly a name people do ask about lol)
If we want to revive the village, we have to grow. To grow, we have to get people interested in joining us. To get people interested in us we need......"The Plan"!!!!!!
It is time!!!!   

Now where in hell did we put the damn thing???
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Laughinman on March 26, 2011, 08:11:27 PM
We haven't  had a "show yourself" thread in a long while. How can we bring back board pics done in photo shop w/out pics? There's so many possibilties that would be really funny. I wish I had the time for my computer that I used to.:(

Every time I start one of those 'show yourself' threads, I get slapped in the face.



That's because you always forget to wear pants.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Doombot on March 29, 2011, 07:18:01 AM
Yeah, I don't really know what to do either.

Night Owl pretty much answered it a while back. Back in the 90's the Unwashed Village was a sort of gathering place. A place where people could post interesting things and talk about it. Now it's just one of many places.

If I want to read what's new I go to Reddit or any other number of sites. Right there that takes care of some of the coolness.

Now it's just a bunch of people that know each other. That's awesome but there's no incentive for new people to join.

I guess just post more. =)
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: metingur on April 01, 2011, 10:33:42 PM
 I'm big fan of first two fallout games. this is my first post here. Its very fun to read this forum but for newcomers(like me), its feels strange to intervene the ongoing conversations even it isnt. thats what hits me firstly. I may find solutions but god I'm newbie..
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Hoopy Frood on April 02, 2011, 09:28:43 PM
We have ongoing conversations?
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Sandru on April 03, 2011, 01:50:16 AM
Doombot sighting, more weeks of snow?

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Doombot on April 03, 2011, 02:18:26 AM
Doombot sighting, more weeks of snow?



Maybe... there's snow in the mountains of Vegas right now. And it's in the 80's down here in the Valley.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Varag on April 14, 2011, 02:36:54 AM
I was thinking about this. One of the things that I used to love was the feeling that there was a Village. We used to talk about the locations in the Village, like the bar, Weasel's lab that sort of thing. Stories seemed to almost pop out of that image because it was easy to relate to.

I'd suggest two things in that light. The first is to do a write up on where the village came from, who it was and how it evolved into what it is now. More than that, let people know what we stand for - I like Doomsie's comments in the Facebook thread about why she didn't want the Village on FB. It made sense to me.

The other is redefine the village as a fictional location. Even create a document that lists the locations and if anyone is feeling creative perhaps even have a map or rough layout. That might even help Chucara's game idea because if we all have a similar idea of the village then it will feel more natural. Let each Villager define their own building or collaborate to develop some common buildings.

I guess when there is a basic layout, you can then evolve that into a logo/poster type idea..... Oh my, I am getting carried away.

I put dibs on the unwashed fire station!
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on April 14, 2011, 07:46:48 PM
I was thinking about this. One of the things that I used to love was the feeling that there was a Village. We used to talk about the locations in the Village, like the bar, Weasel's lab that sort of thing. Stories seemed to almost pop out of that image because it was easy to relate to.

I'd suggest two things in that light. The first is to do a write up on where the village came from, who it was and how it evolved into what it is now. More than that, let people know what we stand for - I like Doomsie's comments in the Facebook thread about why she didn't want the Village on FB. It made sense to me.

The other is redefine the village as a fictional location. Even create a document that lists the locations and if anyone is feeling creative perhaps even have a map or rough layout. That might even help Chucara's game idea because if we all have a similar idea of the village then it will feel more natural. Let each Villager define their own building or collaborate to develop some common buildings.

I guess when there is a basic layout, you can then evolve that into a logo/poster type idea..... Oh my, I am getting carried away.

I put dibs on the unwashed fire station!


The fire station burned down.

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Morb on April 14, 2011, 09:41:04 PM
I was going to suggest trying some multiplayer or something that you could play casual like without too much of a hassle, but couldn't really come up with any suitable game. Hell, just about the only multiplayers that I know these days are MMO's... Kind of...disturbing, really.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Hoopy Frood on April 15, 2011, 01:54:32 AM
I was going to suggest trying some multiplayer or something that you could play casual like without too much of a hassle, but couldn't really come up with any suitable game. Hell, just about the only multiplayers that I know these days are MMO's... Kind of...disturbing, really.

You should discover the wonder that is Team Fortress 2. Even when you suck, it's still fun if you get in with the right bunch of people.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on April 15, 2011, 11:01:12 AM
I heard there is a fallout online coming one day but... I don't know anymore if they will Finnish it.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on April 15, 2011, 11:32:23 PM
but... I don't know anymore if they will Finnish it.


You mean, make it "witty, charming, and incredibly drunk"?
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Tink on April 24, 2011, 12:27:50 PM
I was thinking about this. One of the things that I used to love was the feeling that there was a Village. We used to talk about the locations in the Village, like the bar, Weasel's lab that sort of thing. Stories seemed to almost pop out of that image because it was easy to relate to.

I'd suggest two things in that light. The first is to do a write up on where the village came from, who it was and how it evolved into what it is now. More than that, let people know what we stand for - I like Doomsie's comments in the Facebook thread about why she didn't want the Village on FB. It made sense to me.

Good point Varag. I haven't hung from the chandelier at the Bastard Bar in years. I always thought it was b/c of my age. lol!


Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Ban on April 26, 2011, 08:38:41 PM
First of all... this here is probably a good idea... this thread i mean.
I say this not just because it could provide genuinely revitalising ideas but also because frankly, I just skimmed the last few pages of posts, and it was downright depressing.
True enough, that may be because Im still recovering from BC's "metaphor" prose  :'( - But really, it felt like I was reading the death rattles of someone I love. I agree that the fun of the village was the humour and fiction... so why did I find it so heavily outweighed by the morose sobbing about days gone by?

Secondly, I dont think gimmicks work. A game, or a map, or what have you is great. But that's the kind of thing people should be doing as par for course, rather than using them in a concious effort to bring back a dead zeitgeist.

Yes. Dead... Zeitgeist. I dunno the average reading level of the current members, so I'll explain.
Zeitgeist is a word meaning the spirit of an age, and to paraphrase the Hagakure, it is not wise for one to wish they were in a different time, but rather to make the most of what (or when) they have.

So... with that being said, in the interest of getting people back in the hype...
I notice a distinct lack of turjans and lerks... I therefore offer my services as an illustrator to aid in whatever village-projects people decide are worthy of pusuing.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on April 26, 2011, 09:02:19 PM
First of all...

I'm not convinced that you can be morose and sobbing at the same time.

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Ban on April 26, 2011, 11:43:31 PM
sure you can. you just have to be quiet about it
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Morb on April 27, 2011, 12:27:20 AM
You should discover the wonder that is Team Fortress 2. Even when you suck, it's still fun if you get in with the right bunch of people.
I already looked at it longingly at the shops. But yes, I tend to suck at multiplayers. When me and my friend had finished our battles in Company of Heroes, my score was something like 20+ losses, 1 win. Them recorded sessions were quite humiliating...

If indeed the Fallout Online ever surfaces, and it doesn't suck, maybe enough villagers will shamble in to spread the village there. :)
 
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on April 27, 2011, 01:48:05 AM
How about 'despondent and bleeding.'  I could accept that.

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Ban on April 28, 2011, 12:35:05 AM
uhh, yeah ok. sure, yeah. I can totally arrange that for you *brandishes pointy stick*
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on April 28, 2011, 05:28:33 PM
Cool! 

First, I'd like you to poke yourself in your right eye...

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Hoopy Frood on May 01, 2011, 02:04:03 AM
You should discover the wonder that is Team Fortress 2. Even when you suck, it's still fun if you get in with the right bunch of people.
I already looked at it longingly at the shops. But yes, I tend to suck at multiplayers. When me and my friend had finished our battles in Company of Heroes, my score was something like 20+ losses, 1 win. Them recorded sessions were quite humiliating...

I play with the Straight Dope group on Steam.

There are people who regularly kick my ass, but it's all fun. And no one ever rubs it in. They've been doing regular games for about a year now. I started about two months ago or so, and though they host 3 nights a week, I typically am only on about 5 nights out of the month. So I'm pretty much a noob still.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Jard on May 27, 2011, 04:41:51 AM
Hi, I joined this forum because I was playing Fallout 2 (Which is one of my favorite games) and encountered 'The Unwashed Villagers attacking a Spammer'. It was kind of awesome. I don't know yet what level that former glory was on, but I'll try to support the community as much as possible.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on May 27, 2011, 11:33:32 PM
Hi, I joined this forum because I was playing Fallout 2 (Which is one of my favorite games) and encountered 'The Unwashed Villagers attacking a Spammer'. It was kind of awesome. I don't know yet what level that former glory was on, but I'll try to support the community as much as possible.

Imagine 'Former Glory' as a shining sun, beaming down on happy and carefree  (and insane) Villagers, sharing joys and tribulations, jokes and barbs, girlfriends and---- ok, maybe not that---- dwelling in a world of wonder, free from spam and She Who Must Not Be Named, with unlimited barrels of beer, and free passes to the Vestibule (assuming you met certain criteria, which mostly just consisted of being born female), and where Darkness was not only ignored but pointed and laughed at frequently.

But now...  I guess you have to read this: Despair... (http://unwashed.eu/forum/index.php?topic=2430.0)
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Loveshack on May 31, 2011, 08:28:21 AM
I have a feeling that we're never going to attain our former glory since much of the zeitgeist that created the Village and sustains it has faded with time in favor of new things.  However, I don't see us ever going away.  I imagine we'll sort of be like WebTV, we're still around, but we keep a low profile and people are surprised when they find us.

Of course, I could be wrong.  Maybe we need to reinvent the Village to appeal to a wider audience and get some more publicity.  Fallout fandom is kind of a small niche demographic all things considered.  Maybe we need a website and need to expand our advertised focus into other games and forms of entertainment.  I know we do that now, but most people who've heard of us who aren't members probably think, "they're that group of message board posters who got that spammer booted back in '98".  We need publicity.  

Alternatively, we could draw straws, and the loser has deliberately botch an assassination attempt against a high-profile political figure.  The ensuing media frenzy will drive new members to our site and give us the opportunity to talk about how the incident makes us feel and get us even more press.  The gunman, or gunwoman, will most likely spend the rest of their life in prison or a mental hospital, but it's for the greater good.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on May 31, 2011, 05:44:32 PM
They have good food in prison, right?
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Chucara on May 31, 2011, 11:39:58 PM
I love the assassination attempt idea even more than I hate politicians.. no wait.. I love it exactly the same.

My current strategy for the game is that I have an overall goal with it. Right now I am planning on how I can divide the task into smaller, releasable bits. That are playable, yet not a complete game.

My biggest concern (as always) is graphics.. Which is not my biggest talent.. unless people like abstract art in the games, of course.

But I have a plan to work around this limitation.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on June 01, 2011, 12:40:44 AM
I love the assassination attempt idea even more than I hate politicians.. no wait.. I love it exactly the same.

My current strategy for the game is that I have an overall goal with it. Right now I am planning on how I can divide the task into smaller, releasable bits. That are playable, yet not a complete game.

My biggest concern (as always) is graphics.. Which is not my biggest talent.. unless people like abstract art in the games, of course.

But I have a plan to work around this limitation.

Hire Marla Olmstead?
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Thanatos on June 23, 2011, 10:13:59 AM
I think maybe part of the problem is that we don't really have anything to talk about any more.  Back when we were a young board, we had the Fallout series, and then as we moved past that, we had the fact that a significant percentage of the posters liked writing, and the internet wasn't full of fanfiction yet.  I mean, fuck, I clearly remember posting some poems that maybe weren't totally terrible, and some poems that definitely were totally completely fucking terrible.  The village was nice about it though! 

Communities need something to gather around.  In my stupid opinion, the Village's problem is that we really don't have a focal point any more.  However, that's not a problem that's easily fixed!  Nobody wants the Village to become some dumbass HEY 15 YEAR OLDS POST POETRY AND NOTHING ELSE place, but I don't know what the fuck else there is to bond about.  Communities need to have something that defines them and draws them together; we don't really have anything like that any more besides nostalgia.  It's a pain!
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Loveshack on June 23, 2011, 07:46:48 PM
I think we may have shot ourselves in the foot by moving the board every couple of years without keeping an archive of the old one.  It makes it difficult to have a sense of our history when we have no record of it beyond the rapidly fading memories of our older members.  Is there any way to get the archives up and running again?
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Chucara on June 25, 2011, 12:24:05 AM
I think we may have shot ourselves in the foot by moving the board every couple of years without keeping an archive of the old one.  It makes it difficult to have a sense of our history when we have no record of it beyond the rapidly fading memories of our older members.  Is there any way to get the archives up and running again?

I have an archieve of two older boards backed up on my computer. My dream is to try to convert the data to the new version of the forum and merge it with this one, but that is not as easy as it sounds.

An alternate plan could be to install two more databases and run them alongside the new board as readonly.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on June 25, 2011, 12:44:41 AM
I think we may have shot ourselves in the foot by moving the board every couple of years without keeping an archive of the old one.  It makes it difficult to have a sense of our history when we have no record of it beyond the rapidly fading memories of our older members.  Is there any way to get the archives up and running again?

Hey!
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Loveshack on June 26, 2011, 11:20:44 AM
I have an archieve of two older boards backed up on my computer. My dream is to try to convert the data to the new version of the forum and merge it with this one, but that is not as easy as it sounds.

An alternate plan could be to install two more databases and run them alongside the new board as readonly.

I think the read-only databases are the way to go for the time being.  That's served us well in the past.  You could always attempt a more cohesive merging later on.  At least this way, we have an accessible record of our history.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Doombot on July 01, 2011, 07:52:12 AM
the internet wasn't full of fanfiction yet.

Confused. Does Thanatos want me to post my... I mean someone else's Frodo / Sam fan fiction I wrote... uh found?
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: JC on July 04, 2011, 05:20:20 AM
Two ideas have been presented:

1. Hide in the past and history of the UV
2. Come up with something new

I like second one.  Think about why we're all still here.  Particularly, think about the creative aspects that people keep bringing up and saying that they miss.  I miss that too.  Does anyone remember the Unwashed Parking Lot?

It also seems to me that despite the declining relevance of Fallout specifically, we are still a group of people with a set of common interests.  We also have - and this may surprise you - a website! So my proposal is simple: Develop the website to post creative content written by UV members based on a set of shared interests.  If no one else finds it engaging, who cares?  We can be as insular as we want to be.  However, the better result would be some increase in traffic to the front page and the forums as well, thus giving us our much-needed new members.

Obviously, this is a project that people will have to invest some of their time in.  So if a large group of people find the idea of developing on-line content engaging, we would have to answer:

1. What kind of content?
2. Who will be in charge of what?
3. Could you please pass me that orange?

That sounds notoriously like a "plan" and I know we're loathe to operate by such a filthy connivance of human rationality, but it may be the best thing for us.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: MrWeasel on July 10, 2011, 07:29:33 PM
Yeah i agree with BC


Hey!!!!


Now what was it we were upset about??
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: MrWeasel on July 10, 2011, 07:42:57 PM
and on the MMO suggestion,

i think Anarchy-Online would work very well we could even have our own city and name it the "UV"
AO is a SciFi based MMO (similar to cyberpunk or even shadowrun) we also just celabrated our 10th aniversary of the game (not going anywhere soon either) Lastly I will add that while the graphics are not the "best" MMOs have to offer they are good and allow older computers to play 56k modem required but i wouldn't recommened playing on dial-up however lol.

Not to mention I am very well established in the game (as mrweasel uv none the less) and in short order could get the credits to purchase a city for us.

i can even go as far as i have 3-4 passes for all expansions and 30 days of free play (you can also create a free account without expansions that remains free)

I play on Rimor (Rubi-Ka 2) on the clan side (as who really wants to play as a corparate omnitec puke)

and lastly some very very good ppl at AO many ppl return to the game over and over not for the game but for the other players

1 extra thing the average players age in AO is about 25, there are bratty kids but not a whole hell of alot of them cause the game has a bit of a heavy learning curve when u start to play.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: EO on August 05, 2011, 04:10:55 AM
Hello there internet people. Can any of you direct me to some of the other original members of this little group? I'd like to catch up with some of them.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: JC on August 07, 2011, 12:13:03 AM
Hello there internet people. Can any of you direct me to some of the other original members of this little group? I'd like to catch up with some of them.

They're in the pink room.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Solwyn on August 08, 2011, 01:05:08 AM
Disclaimer: I have had a fair bit to drink.
I had to walk down to an NTB (national tire and battery) to get a battery for my car (about 2 miles in 110 degree heat). Fortunately, the clerk took it upon himself to offer the lady behind me a free rotation in exchange for giving me a lift home, so I got back in one piece.
So, I've had a good bit of alcohol to cool off. Don't worry I drank plenty of water first.

Anyway: Seeing this thread, I thought of something.

I abandoned the village for about a year without saying anything. Not because I was upset or anything really, but I had posted some creative writing and music in the hopes of getting some feedback, and got something like 30 views with no replies. I assumed people were just deciding to be polite and not trash my work, but I figured, "You know what? I can get silence from no one." So I left.

I think that's one of the complaints, is honestly that people feel as though they bring up discussion points and the village tends to lurk or just make "me too" posts. Honestly, I don't think this is the fault of the village: I think it's the fault of the format.

What do you say? It's a forum, which is really meant for discussion (via internet, read RAGING NERD ARGUMENT), and there are only so many topics available for discussion on this format. I think that we should really transition to the future. But that's just my 2c. I'm not sure what that means: Google plus? Facebook? Something that allows more methods of interaction than just "ha" or "me too."


Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on August 08, 2011, 05:29:36 PM
Ha!
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on August 08, 2011, 05:32:26 PM
I do think your stuff is pretty nice but that might gain you negative points in some literary circles.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Solwyn on August 08, 2011, 08:01:41 PM
I do think your stuff is pretty nice but that might gain you negative points in some literary circles.
Urge... to put... in signature... rising...
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Hoopy Frood on August 10, 2011, 04:27:17 AM
Hello there internet people. Can any of you direct me to some of the other original members of this little group? I'd like to catch up with some of them.

It's the Enlightened One!

As to your question, go south until you hit the 4th stoplight. Take a left and continue heading east for about 2 miles or so where you'll come to a railroad crossing. After crossing it, take the dirt road immediately to the right and follow it up the mountain until you reach the lookout point at the top. BASE jump off the mountain and you should find the hamlet they all hang out at.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Thanatos on August 20, 2011, 02:10:53 PM
Okay, I got it.  Hanging out with you boys on this board when I was in high school was super fucking awesome; what we can do to restore the board to what it used to be is stop being pussies.  I enjoy creative writing and stuff like that, but let's not humor people who suck any more.  What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?  I was 15 when I came to the board, and honestly, it changed my life.  I love this place.  I love it because people were fucking honest.  anklsdfnkalfnkadsfldnas

okay, well, never mind about the fact that my introduction to social society was the board.  the point is that if you want that back, you have to just be honest as hell.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on August 20, 2011, 08:03:44 PM
Okay, I got it.  Hanging out with you boys on this board when I was in high school was super fucking awesome; what we can do to restore the board to what it used to be is stop being pussies.  I enjoy creative writing and stuff like that, but let's not humor people who suck any more.  What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?  I was 15 when I came to the board, and honestly, it changed my life.  I love this place.  I love it because people were fucking honest.  anklsdfnkalfnkadsfldnas

okay, well, never mind about the fact that my introduction to social society was the board.  the point is that if you want that back, you have to just be honest as hell.

But what if we are honest but still suck?   :(
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Swash on August 21, 2011, 10:15:53 AM
The main reason I don't post anything much these days is that I've become aware of the fact that I'm boring.  I'm a listener, not a talker.  Hell, I don't even really do anything.  Theatre, work, gaming, relationship.  That's pretty much my whole life and it's all pretty routine.  I'm sure there are things that happen that people would find exciting, but for some reason none of it does for me.

And here's where I hit the "don't post because it's boring" wall and keep myself from going into a self-diagnostic monologue that would serve no purpose other than to make me look like a self-absorbed twat or generally make people uncomfortable about having a deep insight into a person they've never met, bringing the thread to an abrupt halt until somebody posts something completely unrelated.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on August 21, 2011, 07:37:06 PM
That was an incredibly boring post.

*pause for effect*

Sorry, I just had to say that.

I also have to say that I can never remember thinking that any of your posts are boring.  In fact, there a few Villagers whose posts I always try to read, yours among them.  Interestingly enough, the few people who post now are all in that group.

Your comment makes me wonder if test pilots think their job is boring, possibly because it is so routine for them.  Well, OK, maybe posting in the Unwashed Village and test flying a jet that's never flown before might not be on the same level, but still...

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Thanatos on August 22, 2011, 11:56:53 AM
Okay, I didn't explain myself very well a few nights ago.  What I was trying to say was not that there is anything wrong with being honest, but I feel like back in the Day, there was perhaps more of a cutting edge, more of a willingness to make inconsequential jokes at other people's expense, more of a willingness to get cracked in a non-formulaic way.  Basically I feel like the board got PC!  I liked it better when I could be like "HEY YOU SUCK, AND TO PROVE IT, HERE'S A QUOTE BY BLAKE"
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Swash on August 22, 2011, 03:36:29 PM
I liked it better when I could be like "HEY YOU SUCK, AND TO PROVE IT, HERE'S A QUOTE BY BLAKE"

Wait, you mean you've stopped doing that?  There's our problem.  Thanny, I demand more obscure references (by obscure I mean "anything I've not heard of that looks like it's probably something that's if not classical is at least classy") and in-fun insultery!  Especially from you - you do it so damn well.

Also, sorry about my slightly self-indulgent misery-post.  Dark night, remembered stuff, forgotten it all now so all is again right with the world.
Still, Thanks Blue, was nice to get someone else's view on what I wrote.  Yeah, it's quite possible that test pilots, stunt men and the like get into a rut where everything seems the same.  Hell, even Bear Grylls probably wakes up some mornings and says "Yep, I'm awake, time to drink my own piss."
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on August 22, 2011, 04:55:34 PM
"HEY YOU SUCK, AND TO PROVE IT, HERE'S A QUOTE BY BLAKE"

"Art can never exist without naked beauty displayed."

I'm thinking that Blake may not suck.

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: JC on August 28, 2011, 03:57:06 PM
I think we just need some nudie pics of Banango.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: ICEFANG on September 10, 2011, 05:00:03 AM
Hello, this is my first post here hello!

I said hello twice, damn I messed up already.

Anyway, I don't think anyone here knows me, and I don't know anyone here, the reason I signed up?

I am a gamer, not old, but experienced, I've noticed, in my opinion, that games overall nowadays are quite lacking. I've decided to take initiative and work on a fallout/SPECIAL based DnD like game, with tons of new features (spell like stuff, different races, etc). While doing some research on Armor DT/DR I noticed about this site (from your cameo in Fallout 2).

Fallout, new and old, still has many lovers, I was previously on a forum that is dying out (like a month I suspect). While I have no great love of this one yet, I would like to help out.

I have not read the entire thread, not something I often do (I am strapped for time right now), but I would suggest, if you want your former glory, just find a way to advertise the site. If I had known about this place, I would have been on board a long time ago. I'm sure that Fallout will be a well known game someday again, this could be the site for all fallout games, regardless of creator.

Anyway, I dunno any of you now, but thanks for taking time to read this.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on September 10, 2011, 06:56:13 AM
Hello, this is my first post here hello!

Rule #1  Never post on-topic.

Rule #2  If you're not female, don't even think about visiting the Vestibule.

Rule #3  something about beer, but I kinda forget what...
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: AcdQueen89 on September 11, 2011, 01:22:23 AM
Rule #3  something about beer, but I kinda forget what...

three rounds on the new guy.


if you dont remember that one, something really needs to be checked
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: ICEFANG on September 11, 2011, 11:12:16 PM
A forum where I can post what I please?
YES
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on September 12, 2011, 05:44:13 PM
A forum where I can post what I please?
YES

That's very close but not quite right.

"A forum where you can post what I please."
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Solwyn on September 12, 2011, 08:23:35 PM
A forum where I can post what I please?
YES

That's very close but not quite right.

"A forum where you can post what I please."

Invoking rule #1 :

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/007/509/hits_children.jpg?1249415569)
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on September 12, 2011, 10:14:09 PM
Well... he is a clown, after all.  A nasty, evil, cholesterol inducing clown.

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: ICEFANG on September 13, 2011, 03:39:13 AM
I like you guys
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Hoopy Frood on September 13, 2011, 05:28:00 AM
I like you guys

Someone's got to after all.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: TK on September 13, 2011, 03:01:22 PM
I like you guys

Liar!

Mother is always right....
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Thanatos on September 15, 2011, 01:27:56 PM
We can fuck or drink or write or think

they're all good options.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on September 15, 2011, 05:38:32 PM
We can fuck or drink or write or think

they're all good options.

I'd reply with my current score on the above events but it's too depressing.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: ICEFANG on September 15, 2011, 07:29:39 PM
I don't drink though
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Solwyn on September 15, 2011, 09:48:20 PM
I don't drink though

That leaves at least three options.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: A.S.S.R. on September 17, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
It's ironic. The once-obscure 1990s RPG series that spawned this community is now, globally, far larger ever.

And yet we're quieter than at any point since...the Interplay message boards?
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Shard on October 18, 2011, 04:01:48 AM
If by former glory you mean having more than a dozen posters, the solution is fairly simple, if not entirely practical.

Every member would simply post on the bethesda/obsidian forums as much as possible, contribute relevant posts, preferably with information and/or insights that people find meaningful, and simply keep a link to this site in the signature with something insinuating that this is a fallout site....which, well, it sort of isn't anymore.

The thing is, the internet has enough "Post whatever, we're all just people" forums. Too many, really. The reason the UV was so successful in the first place was, even though other stuff was posted, we were a fallout message board. There was common ground that drew everybody together, and the off-topic posts were just an extension of the people who posted here and joined *because* it was a fallout site.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Thanatos on November 15, 2011, 11:05:23 AM
I disagree, Douglas!  Actually, I think the charm of the village was that somehow it grew out of the gritty posts of a video game message board.  For some inexplicable reason, a lot of people congregated in an imaginary place and spoke about unreal things.  Also, I constantly wanted to sleep with every female.  Sorry.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on November 15, 2011, 05:53:33 PM
I disagree, Douglas!  Actually, I think the charm of the village was that somehow it grew out of the gritty posts of a video game message board.  For some inexplicable reason, a lot of people congregated in an imaginary place and spoke about unreal things.  Also, I constantly wanted to sleep with every female.  Sorry.

Perhaps if you didn't snore so loud...
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Shard on November 18, 2011, 02:54:23 AM
Exactly, Brian. It grew out of it, but it *started* with that. That's what drew all of the initial members, and then it grew organically from there.

There's just no reason for any random schlubb to just decide this is the place to be.

You need a hook to get them here, and then it can progress from there.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Solwyn on November 18, 2011, 10:23:05 PM
I disagree, Douglas!  Actually, I think the charm of the village was that somehow it grew out of the gritty posts of a video game message board.  For some inexplicable reason, a lot of people congregated in an imaginary place and spoke about unreal things.  Also, I constantly wanted to sleep with every female.  Sorry.

Like every female ever?

You are fucking legen...


wait for it...


...

dary!
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: karategoldfish on November 23, 2011, 12:09:47 AM
I think it's also hard because when I first joined the village I was what, 15? And the Internet was pret new to me so I had tons of time to waste just surfing around. And this board is/was riotously funny. So I think we probably should start some memes or something.

Srsly, what we need is to come up with a hilarious thing, and then make it an Internet meme. Examples include hipster ariel, tomhanksimals, sad Keanu, etc.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The SysMan on November 30, 2011, 01:38:38 AM
A meme could work, sure, but as long as its not the shotgun method people are using these days.

I think we're lacking in the activities section, things that make people want to check in every day. The internet has evolved beyond the message board collection it once was, so people need something more engaging to really pique their interest. It's sad, yes, but people's time seems to get filled up pretty quickly these days.

Or something. Perhaps a huge influx of activity in general might work, but getting that to happen might require more effort than anyone is prepared to put in.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Bubonic on March 16, 2012, 02:40:27 PM
*Saunters in from the wastes*

*Stride interrupted by need to dodge a dust devil*

*Is noticeably shitty about the effect it has on what was supposed to be a tastefully understated but poignant entrance*

Frell.

Ok, you want the Village to thrive again? Here's my two caps:

1.  Bring back the Rat (oh yeah baby).

2.  We need a campaign.  I propose: "Get the village into Wasteland 2".  Surely Brian Fargo remembers us from the FO1 & 2 days.

2a. Someone mentioned a new game might breathe new life into the board... Wasteland is as close to FO as you're ever going to get - use it!

Ok. That's as much work as you're going to get out of me today.

*Finds the nearest alcoholic beverage, sits down next to it, and slowly, lovingly, seduces it.*


Edit:  Get over to http://wasteland.inxile-entertainment.com/forum/index.php (http://wasteland.inxile-entertainment.com/forum/index.php) and put a link to this forum in your sig. I notice that Brother None is a moderator on the site. I never really got to know him, but I remember the name from back in the day.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on March 16, 2012, 04:34:50 PM
Re sig:

A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your mother.

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on March 19, 2012, 09:35:14 AM
Get over to http://wasteland.inxile-entertainment.com/forum/index.php (http://wasteland.inxile-entertainment.com/forum/index.php) and put a link to this forum in your sig. I notice that Brother None is a moderator on the site. I never really got to know him, but I remember the name from back in the day.

I quite like that idea, I'll shuffle over next chance I get.

But maybe you should work together to pledge $1 million to the cause? You guys could run around with crowbars beating up old ladies and taking $5 from their cold dead hands! Then you will have a new reputation of "The guys and galls that made Wasteland 2 possible!" :D
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: TK on March 20, 2012, 05:50:00 PM
Maybe we could persuade the wasteland 2 team to do a special demo where you save the village in some way, like the fallout demo.

*edit*

Stupid internet connection, I've posted this in another thread so..... Look a dancing bear!

Seriously though, exposure is the way, getting ourselves into a quality mod for FO3 might work but that might take planning and well....
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on March 20, 2012, 09:08:03 PM
I could supply the well; I've got a Big Shovel.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on March 21, 2012, 09:25:02 AM
I could supply the well; I've got a Big Shovel.

I have Dynamite to, you know incase we want to start a library...
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: TK on March 21, 2012, 07:13:45 PM
Hmm a well, we could put BC down there and put out a general request for help.

We'd get hundreds of new members, especially if he wore a wig.

*edit*

Corrected some typos, once upon a time it would have been because of alcohol, now it's because of children pulling at me.  I'm not going to explore the parity there.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on March 23, 2012, 11:52:48 AM
Do you think Brian Fargo would add the village to Wasteland 2, if  I went down to his house and asked really nicely? And offered... you know...
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on March 23, 2012, 06:13:35 PM
Do you think Brian Fargo would add the village to Wasteland 2, if  I went down to his house and asked really nicely? And offered... you know...

to mow his lawn?

It could work.

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on March 23, 2012, 08:23:59 PM
to mow his lawn?

It could work.

If you mean what I think you mean...  ;)
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on March 24, 2012, 12:02:32 AM
to mow his lawn?

It could work.

If you mean what I think you mean...  ;)

No.

(http://criminalbrief.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/bikini_lawn_9.jpg)
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on March 26, 2012, 09:55:14 AM
Maybe... wash his car?

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v-TmF7v_oew/TZDBP6SMlbI/AAAAAAAAAdQ/EQt6y-yXBo4/s1600/car+wash+%252811%2529.jpg)
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: SaishuHane on April 16, 2012, 07:46:40 PM
Might not be too late to jump on the Wasteland 2 bandwagon! Better yet if Brian Fargo throws up a link to these forums like he's been doing for others. 18 hours is cutting it pretty close though... Maybe some srsbsns Wasteland concept talk?
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: GuardianOfTheWastes on May 26, 2012, 09:44:08 PM
Not sure really how to write this, and although I'm normally a bit of a perfectionist I will just have to do it from the top of my head.

First up, I've been a lurker here for a few years, ever since I came across a number of you in the Wastelands of California. Since then, I've enjoyed reading your conversations on occasion with a nice cup of te- I mean, a flagon of ale from the Bastard Bar and I continued to do so until these conversations dried up. Not completely, but enough so that they didn't flow enough to keep reading them.

Since then in the world of the online Fallout Community, I joined the Vault as well as did a little work on Mutant's Rising before real life caught up with me and I had to tell Ardent I couldn't carry on. More recently, I've been promoted to admin on the Vault and on the copy left behind after the split with Wikia and what is now Nukapedia. You may or may not have been aware of that, or what either of them are. If not, they are Fallout Encyclopaedias.

Don't worry, I am going somewhere with this. The Vault is very old, started in 2005, and unlike the village it is still going strong. I've recently had numerous private conversations with the other admins at the Vault, to list some that you might have heard of: Ausir, GhostAvatar, Tagaziel and Kastera.

The idea we were discussing is mine. I love this place, and like you I don't want it to die. Therefore, I proposed to these other admins that we bring you over to the Vault and give you its community extension. This would include:
*Complete free-reign over that site
*Redesigning to your specifications
*Renaming it to unwashed.falloutwiki.com
*Help from all our admins, including the technical wizardry of the philanthropic Porter21. (When I say wizardry, I cannot be more serious. This guy is a god. In fact I'm making a few joke pages in my user-space on the religion of 'Porterism'. Some of the creativism that you have been missing, yes?  ;) )
*Wiping the site effectively so that the boards are up to your discretion. Ausir intends to move the news onsite again, so if that has to stay for a time, it will be temporary
*We'll send traffic your way from the Vault
*Your admins will be given administration or bureaucrat powers so that you can ban people, as well as choose new admins.

I'm sure there was more than that, but I can't remember right now...

All we want in return is...!

Nothing, nothing at all. We just want to save the site. Please consider. We know you've had this site a long time, but it will be much easier to keep it alive if you travel to us.

I'll be on here every day for some time, awaiting your reply, whatever it is. I'm also open to negotiate as, like I said, we're not doing it for us. Well maybe a little for me because I want to get this site back to how it was  ;D


EDIT: Also, whilst I remember the Official Wasteland 2 Wiki, so approved by Brain Fargo, is also hosted by the Vault, just whilst it on topic! I won't post a link because I'm not trying to advertise.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on May 27, 2012, 02:16:06 AM
It's a plot, I tell you!  A nefarious plot!

And did you notice that not ONCE did he mention wenches!

I propose we go over to the Vault and burn it to the ground!!

(after removing the ale first, of course)

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on May 27, 2012, 11:07:51 AM
It's a plot, I tell you!  A nefarious plot!

And did you notice that not ONCE did he mention wenches!

I propose we go over to the Vault and burn it to the ground!!

(after removing the ale first, of course)

Don't forget to steal potential wenches while you are there!  ;)
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: GuardianOfTheWastes on May 27, 2012, 02:31:18 PM
*takes off plotting monocle*

A plot you say? Whatever gave you that idea?

*slams desk drawer*
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on May 27, 2012, 05:22:27 PM
*takes of plotting monocle*

A plot you say? Whatever gave you that idea?

*slams desk drawer*

*Studies the scoundrel, before him, carefully whilst tweaking his moustache....*

 :o YOU STOLE MY MONOCLE YOU BOUNDER!

Fisticuffs it is!
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: TK on May 27, 2012, 05:25:49 PM
Sounds a little like the V13 boards (am I remembering right?)

There's planning involved here though....
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: GuardianOfTheWastes on May 27, 2012, 05:33:27 PM
 >:(

*proceeds to chase man out of office by throwing anything that comes to either hand: first, a letter opener, then a banana, a tomato, and even a rotten pumpkin from last halloween that I was just too damn lazy to clean-up.*  :laugh:

And I must admit, I'm unfamiliar with the V13 boards, but yes, this is extremely well thought out.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on May 27, 2012, 06:40:38 PM
yes, this is extremely well thought out.

You must be in the wrong place.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: GuardianOfTheWastes on May 27, 2012, 07:48:14 PM
No, this is the right place, and exactly the kind of activity I've missed. But in all seriousness, what do you think?
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on May 28, 2012, 02:27:17 AM
I think I'm the wrong person to ask.

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Swash on May 28, 2012, 08:33:01 AM
I've put the proposal up on the admin forum for discussion (mostly just to draw attention to the fact that the proposal was made) so I'm just waiting for the others to drop in and see it.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Swash on May 28, 2012, 08:33:38 AM
Also; Hi!
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: GuardianOfTheWastes on May 28, 2012, 02:20:28 PM
Also; Hi!
Hi to you too! :D
And thanks for putting it there; it's a private board, right? Only admins can see it? Also, will you come up with an answer for me, or will you keep me up to date? And is there anyway that you could make one for 'normal' users to discuss?
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Hoopy Frood on May 28, 2012, 04:01:17 PM
Sounds a little like the V13 boards (am I remembering right?)

There's planning involved here though....

But no doubt with more competent admins. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in the admin forum there when the fingers started pointing as to actually wrote the script that finally broke that camel. IIRC, they completely fercokt the thing to the point that the database was unrecoverable and they lost pretty much everything. After that board borke, entered Lance, who was known as Mr. Fuck You on the AOF board (and pretty much the chief admin there) way back in the day before he essentially left the AOF due to creative differences of where he and Bullock wanted to take the thing, though there was no bad blood, just differences in goals. (Incidentally, the AOF is still around, and I still spend some time there, though, it's really nothing like it was having largely been melded with two other communities.). Anyway, Lance hosted us on his Vault-Tec board, which he set up as a Fallout Tactics clan and gave us full autonomy, as had Vault 13. But FOT had a lot of issues, and it didn't have a very long lasting community, so Lance gave us plenty of notice that he was going to shut down Vault-Tec. Then RadioactiveRob, one of the former admins from Vault 13 hosted us on his own personally owned domain and was tech admin while Turjan, Paladin/Petrarch, and someone else I forget were moderating admins. Everything went swimmingly until Rob got all power trippy and started moderating the debate forum over the heads of Lara and I.  Which led to all sorts of fun drama, not the least of which was Lerk chastising Lara and I as hypocrites when we had nothing to do with it, and were just as surprised at the whole business as he was. So then we moved on to a free site and I was brought on as a moderating admin while chucara was brought on as tech admin. We used a free host for a while, but ran into a lot of speed issues, so we started paying for our own hosts through donations from the admins and other members. Originally petrarch managed the funds, but later BlueCross took it over. And then Chucara gave us part of his own host domain, and that's where we stand today.

As far as the offer, I will say I am intrigued. I'll need to discuss it with the other admins (i.e. BC, Swash, Chucara, and possibly the other guy, but he doesn't come around much anymore so we won't wait for him) and would like to hear what the rest of the community thinks as well (even you formerly active now lurking types, you know who you are). However, don't expect a decision for at least a week, since I'm going out of town to Origins gaming convention later this week and will not likely be around much.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Hoopy Frood on May 28, 2012, 04:06:29 PM
Also; Hi!
Hi to you too! :D
And thanks for putting it there; it's a private board, right? Only admins can see it? Also, will you come up with an answer for me, or will you keep me up to date? And is there anyway that you could make one for 'normal' users to discuss?

How about a sticky thread instead? A whole forum seems a bit overkill. Heck, I'd say we could probably just keep it in this thread, but it might be better since there's a specific solution on the table to give it its own thread.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Hoopy Frood on May 28, 2012, 04:15:03 PM
New thread is up. Located here. (http://unwashed.eu/forum/index.php?topic=2794)
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: GuardianOfTheWastes on May 28, 2012, 04:43:13 PM
New thread is up. Located here. (http://unwashed.eu/forum/index.php?topic=2794)

Thanks a lot :) I'll make sure I take a look to keep up to date.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: TK on May 28, 2012, 06:46:50 PM
Ah Rob, I remember way back when he threw the toys out of the pram and said he wasn't talking to any of us, by us it may just have been me, again over a discussion on friendly fire.  Wasn't there an apology thread by Rob at some point?

I often forget just how much 'history' the village has seen.  I missed huge swathes / wasn't conscious for much of it.   
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Sandru on May 31, 2012, 11:46:11 PM
Haven't really read the entire thread, but has the topic come up of starting multiple game groups? Stuff like Steam (if you use it,) bnet (non real ID, so limited to D3 if you can stomach it.), etc, etc.

It may not get everyone, but you'd have a listing of everyone you COULD play with if you don't want to go alone.

Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Chucara on June 01, 2012, 04:54:51 PM
Haven't really read the entire thread, but has the topic come up of starting multiple game groups? Stuff like Steam (if you use it,) bnet (non real ID, so limited to D3 if you can stomach it.), etc, etc.

It may not get everyone, but you'd have a listing of everyone you COULD play with if you don't want to go alone.
Gaming groups is definitely a good idea, I think. It's extremely easy to implement, and I think we stand a chance of building a community of gamers without actually turning into a gaming site.

Insanity is a general quirk, afterall.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on June 01, 2012, 05:47:20 PM
Hmm I know that xfire has a good group feature, it's quite similar to Steam's, but with more features... you know if we ever decide to become one of those clans that focus on those super swell Modern Warfare games...
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Loveshack on November 13, 2012, 12:31:10 AM
I have an archieve of two older boards backed up on my computer. My dream is to try to convert the data to the new version of the forum and merge it with this one, but that is not as easy as it sounds.

An alternate plan could be to install two more databases and run them alongside the new board as readonly.

I like this idea Chucara.  I doubt the archives, as old as they are, are likely to contain anything meriting further discussion, at least not enough things to warrant upgrading them to the new boards as fully interactive forums, but it would be nice to have them available as archives for the purposes of continuity and history.  If there's something in them that needs further discussion, a member could always copy paste the relevant bits to a new thread and/or link the archived thread.  At any rate, if you post them as read-only archives, you could always reserve the right to take on the more arduous task of converting them to fully interactive forums at a later date, but at least we would have them in some fashion.  I like seeing how we've progressed as a board and as individuals over the years, and I feel like losing our archives every time we upgrade not only robs us of that, but also robs us of any name-recognition and reputation we have built in the interwebs up to that point.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on November 13, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
I really liked the sound of this, if possible I think I can find posts as old as the fallout message board (with a little digging).
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on November 14, 2012, 09:44:18 AM
Haven't really read the entire thread, but has the topic come up of starting multiple game groups? Stuff like Steam (if you use it,) bnet (non real ID, so limited to D3 if you can stomach it.), etc, etc.

It may not get everyone, but you'd have a listing of everyone you COULD play with if you don't want to go alone.

You know Steam groups have massivley improved lately:
They offer...

I think that steam maybe a good place to have a group simultaneous to this one, I know of at least 3 members of this site who are on Steam and play games on their regularly. Also I'm pretty sure a number of old users would stumble across a steam group, as I see it they are far more likely to do so.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: KMD on November 14, 2012, 08:56:39 PM
Haven't really read the entire thread, but has the topic come up of starting multiple game groups? Stuff like Steam (if you use it,) bnet (non real ID, so limited to D3 if you can stomach it.), etc, etc.

It may not get everyone, but you'd have a listing of everyone you COULD play with if you don't want to go alone.

You know Steam groups have massivley improved lately:
They offer...
  • A small notice board (though admittingly no where near as good as a proper forum, still it would attract new posters)
  • A chat room, that offers a real time chat.
  • The ability to create events and announcements
  • The ability to dedicate your group to a game or several games
  • Allows the ability to have mods as well as admins
  • It also offers plenty of chance for discussion with a comments box on the main page/ announcement and events also have comments available underneath them and as I mentioned the chat feature does.

I think that steam maybe a good place to have a group simultaneous to this one, I know of at least 3 members of this site who are on Steam and play games on their regularly. Also I'm pretty sure a number of old users would stumble across a steam group, as I see it they are far more likely to do so.

I second that emotion.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Hoopy Frood on November 19, 2012, 07:01:45 AM
I think that steam maybe a good place to have a group simultaneous to this one, I know of at least 3 members of this site who are on Steam and play games on their regularly.

If that doesn't include Chucara and I you can add two more to that.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on November 19, 2012, 09:48:44 AM
Another possiblity came to me around the time that the UV was invited to the vault community.

I don't know if it's been suggested yet, but a wiki could work. You can found your own whenever you like on Wikia and the UV has more than enough lore to support a wiki. If we wanted a revival in written work such as fiction, poetry, blogposts and so on then I think a wiki would be a good place to start.

Not only would it be easy for current members, but anyone can edit. So it would allow passing through members to create content or even new people who stumble across it. It would be like the days where you could post without signing up for the board you're posting on (I remember you could do that at a time.) I don't suggest fully moving to a wiki though since the forum features are somewhat inferior in my opinion, but for written content that is easily accessible and editable you can do much worse.

It would also be a brilliant place to archive those old threads that were mentioned above and archive old odds and sods from over the years.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: JC on November 20, 2012, 04:50:47 PM
Bring back Vault13! Wooooooo!
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on November 20, 2012, 05:30:57 PM
anyone can edit.

You realize, of course, that I am in the subset "anyone can edit."
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Larspeart on December 02, 2015, 06:55:57 AM
Well, not to (re)take my shoes off 'too' quickly after such a hiatus, but....


I found you all via 'running down a wiki hole'.  I was looking up something on FO4, clicked on wild wasteland, found 'our' encounter, and thought, "no way.... They can't be still th...." But I checked, and I am SO pleased I did!

We could, in the short term, 'brand' ourselves as the Elder Sages of the Olden Days (which, frankly, I certainly FEEL 'elder'....) to the MILLIONS of new FOers, and the old schoolers that are now rebooked and wanna throw in 1 or 2, and find some folks that 'get it'. 


And then..... We cover them in dirt.  Not gross dirt.  Just Unwashed Dirt.  :-)


Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: KMD on December 02, 2015, 07:20:57 AM
Fallout 3 and 4 brought with them a lot of new generation Fallout fans. Its certainly possible that the UV could spark some interest in the new community.

also, since I am a little drunk, I want to take this moment to remember the deceased members of the UV

RIP Darkfox and Kama (I don't think I missed anyone else...)

Gone but not forgotten
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Hoopy Frood on December 03, 2015, 05:17:09 AM
NMA is still going strong (and one of it's admins works for inExile--the company that grew out of the remnants of Interplay; he was also both a member of The Order and an old school UV'er).

So it's not as if all the communities that sprung out of FO1 are dead or on life support.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on December 08, 2015, 01:19:10 AM
I've been a part of a TeS RPing community for two years now and we've finally branched out into Fallout RPing.

I've made a wikia for Fallout related writings (we take stories, character sheets, etc...) http://fallout-gravel-pit.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Gravel_Pit_Wikia here. I registered the UV as an associate. We only have three users right now as we're still putting things together, we've only been operational for like three hours.

Anyway, going to invite the TES peeps over, later on in the week. If you would like, I'd be more than happy to give the UV it's own subforum and community corner spot, where you can chat, post writings and do other Fallout related activities.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Hoopy Frood on December 08, 2015, 06:00:17 AM
It's certainly something to consider, and I'm certainly not opposed to the idea.

What does everybody else think?
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Desert Ranger on December 08, 2015, 11:02:16 AM
It sounds like a TOP SHELF.... idea.

Yes
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: JKtoday on December 08, 2015, 11:16:17 AM
A mini-bar would be nice.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on December 08, 2015, 01:53:59 PM
Well, it's extra space for you lot to exert your dominance.
Hurrr hurrr  :P
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: TK on December 10, 2015, 09:04:30 PM
Not opposed to anything that keeps the UV going / takes in new members as long as it has nothing to the the vestibule or the P word.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on December 10, 2015, 11:50:47 PM
the P word.

"Peanuts?"
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: TK on December 11, 2015, 10:15:02 AM
Don't guess, you might say it!
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: BlueCross on December 13, 2015, 09:03:29 AM
That's odd; I was pretty sure that rutabaga didn't have a 'p' in it.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: TK on December 13, 2015, 02:57:09 PM
It does if you live in Scotland.

Neep and Tattie soup is one of my favourites.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on December 14, 2015, 05:26:55 PM
I've added a forum section for UV members and I'm also willing to have a UV tab for articles. Relating to it, if any are ever made.

(Also, no links or correct use of punctuation, since I'm on my phone. XD)
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: Hoopy Frood on December 15, 2015, 05:38:55 AM
I've added a forum section for UV members and I'm also willing to have a UV tab for articles. Relating to it, if any are ever made.

(Also, no links or correct use of punctuation, since I'm on my phone. XD)

So how exactly would this work? Would this be a supplement to this forum, or is the idea to move over there? (I have no idea how wiki forums work.)

And if the latter, we should coordinate the staff on how this will all be accomplished.
Title: Re: What can we do to restore the UV to its former glory?
Post by: The Hanged Man on December 15, 2015, 08:59:46 AM
I've added a forum section for UV members and I'm also willing to have a UV tab for articles. Relating to it, if any are ever made.

(Also, no links or correct use of punctuation, since I'm on my phone. XD)

So how exactly would this work? Would this be a supplement to this forum, or is the idea to move over there? (I have no idea how wiki forums work.)

And if the latter, we should coordinate the staff on how this will all be accomplished.

Oh no, it's just extra space, I think it would be a little bit of a downgrade for you to move there. xD

Still, its there if you need it, basically. :P