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Bush is worse than Hitler!
« on: August 06, 2007, 11:39:59 PM »
Hitler was elected with a clearer majority, knew how to speak eloquently, believed in science and was better militarily.

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How's that for the first debate post?

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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2007, 11:40:40 PM »
Hitler was elected with a clearer majority, knew how to speak eloquently, believed in science and was better militarily.

=)

How's that for the first debate post?

Hitler!

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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2007, 11:42:03 PM »
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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2007, 11:42:30 PM »
Aahh.. but Bush has never engaged in a land war with Russia.. Sure.. him and Putin are starting an arms race that could eventually lead to the World War III - but it's summer! SUMMER, people!

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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2007, 11:46:13 PM »
Why are you Chuara and not ChuCara? If you going to be another Chu... pick this one.

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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2007, 12:29:37 AM »
Hitler was a terrible, terrible general.  The only thing reason WWII lasted as long as it did was that his generals were great and usually managed to successfully convince him to change his mind when he made horrible decisions.  Fortunately for us they couldn't persuade him not to invade Russia.
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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2007, 01:30:04 AM »
Hitler was a terrible, terrible general.  The only thing reason WWII lasted as long as it did was that his generals were great and usually managed to successfully convince him to change his mind when he made horrible decisions.  Fortunately for us they couldn't persuade him not to invade Russia.

Oh I agree on that part. He diverted resources to killing the Jews when those same resources would have helped in battle. eg. Trains full of Jews on their way to death camps when it would have been better military wize to use them to move troops.

I was thinking more along the lines of an impoverished country with a pitiful military rising to become a military power and having a better military by far that a few years ago.
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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2007, 02:03:23 AM »
To say Hitler was democratically elected is an oversimplification at best. First of all, unlike the implication in Boondocks (Gruder being a militant Anti-Bushie), Bush received a demonstrably greater percentage of the electorate votes (Hitler only received 37 percent of the electorate; I forget the exact percentage of Bush but it was in the high 40's, IIRC). But okay, you can say that due to the proportional representation in government, Hitler received the largest percentage of votes compared to any candidate, right? Wrong. Hindenburg kicked his ass twice. Once in the original election--in which Hindenburg, only garnering 49.6 percent of the vote was forced into a run off with Hitler, the second place guy getting only 30 percent. And then in the next election, where Hindenburg won a 53 percent majority to Hitler's previously mentioned 37. (The other 10 percent going to whatever candidates no one really gave two shits about that were also in the runoff.)

So how did Hitler become Chancellor? Well, the issue was that Chancellor and his cabinet was usually selected by the party that had the majority of seats in Reichstag. If there was no majority, there had to be alliances forged and a Chancellor elected by the alliance that had majority. However, the various parties in Germany all hated each other and refused to work together, essentially leaving Germany without a Chancellor. Needless to say, the fledgling Democracy that Germany was was quickly falling apart. However, both the President and the Chancellor were given a lot of power under the constitution, and could wield that power at whim if either felt it was needed. Hindenburg had been known to exercise his near dictatorial powers frequently, however, he really was more concerned about the state of Germany than himself or any parties (he was a WWI general after all), so he didn't really abuse it in any real sense. Unfortunately, Hitler set into motion a series of backroom deals that got him enough support to convince Hindenburg to appoint him chancellor. Hindenburg fearing that Germany would dissolve into warring factions combined with the support Hitler garnered enabled this. Once Hitler became Chancellor, the death knell for democratic Germany was sounded. Instead of using the power to better Germany, Hitler used the power of Chancellor to better the Nazi party.

So while Hitler's rise to power might have been legal under the idiocy that was Germany's constitution, it was hardly democratic. He never would have stood a chance if the opposition parties had actually been able to get along, or if the constitution had any real checks on the powers of Chancellor and President.

And it always comes back to the Nazis (even on a new board), doesn't it?
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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2007, 02:15:46 AM »
And it always comes back to the Nazis (even on a new board), doesn't it?

It's one of the few things we can count on. =)
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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2007, 03:38:42 AM »
Well, thats it. Discussion over.
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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2007, 04:14:19 PM »
Wait, why is the discussion over? Because of how well thought out and executed Hoopy's rebuttal was or is it because someone pointed out that it always comes back to Hitler?

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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2007, 10:42:02 PM »
You have no idea...
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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2007, 05:04:57 PM »
Gonna fall back on the "I'm new" excuse.  :dunce:
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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2007, 07:08:49 PM »
Are you sure you're roughrider?

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Re: Bush is worse than Hitler!
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2007, 02:28:33 AM »
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