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Another Fallout Thread
« on: January 25, 2012, 07:47:30 AM »
    So I decided to finally try Fallout 1 a few days ago and am nearly finished. I think its a great game, but has definitely aged.
   I'm going to start Fallout 2 as soon as i'm done.
 
    The purpose of this thread is for you guys to give me some hints, and to discuss the differences between the three games I guess. Its been a while since there has been a Fallout related thread after all. I figure we could discuss again this before the UV disappears into the wastes.

    ---A  breakdown of my opinions on the game thusfar

Like I said, it has definitely aged. The hardest part was trying to get over the archaic ( from 1997!) GUI. I actually gave away thousands of dollars worth of stuff before I realizd you have to manually drag the vendor's money.  But there is a lot to love, for sure. Once I got over the blurry graphics and awful (comparatively) combat system, I was pretty damn impressed with the game. Hard to believe that back in 1997, Fallout had features like being able to pickpocket anyone, and permanent repercussions for your actions. Not to mention how unforgiving the game can be if you piss someone off.
   
   I like the similarites to Wasteland (Yes I've played it!) but the over-world exploration bit is really pretty boring. The random combat encounters just feel corny, and like I said combat is generally pretty awful. Early in the game I got slaughtered, but after I found the basic BoS armor, most enemies posed little or no threat at all, and just became a nuisance. And then the Super Mutants can blow me up with one rocket. Combat is hardly a good challange, its one extreme or the other. 

I loved the turn of events storyline, after finding the water chip. Though I guess Grim is trolling from forum hell because I swear i've seen on this forum that it is in you-know-where so it wasn't much of a surprise.

I'm not finished yet though. I just arrived at the military base and I already know where you-know-who is hiding. The game honestly has not been very hard. While I've cheated a few times, it was mostly just to avoid frustration where to go specifically, I was always on the right track.

I will probably finish in the next day or two and then start on FO2. Unlike FO, I have no idea what to expect in terms of storyline, and I will avoid cheating. Tips anyone?

On a side note: I'm a little sad that I played through FO3 before starting on these games. I would have appreciated it much more. Though honestly, the Fallout Universe is so much easier to relate to in a full 3D open world imo.

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« Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 07:51:27 AM by KMD »
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Re: Another Fallout Thread
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 12:29:48 AM »
The map travel system is worse now than it was back then - modern computers run too fast, so the random encounters pop up far more frequently than they did on older computers.

One thing you should try in Fallout 1 and 2 is a low intelligence character.  It changes the game completely.  I wouldn't advise playing through the whole game that way, but it's good to see what they did with it at the very least.

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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 01:19:05 AM »
I just like when you talk to the very low-intelligence NPC in Fallout 2 with a low-intelligence character (i.e. 3 or less). The game subtitles your idiotic ramblings into an erudite conversation.
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Re: Another Fallout Thread
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2012, 05:22:28 AM »
haha
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Re: Another Fallout Thread
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2012, 12:50:36 PM »
I cried laughing when the overseer had to wrestle the water chip out of my dumb character's hand.

"Not that... no... THE WATER CHIP!"  :laugh:
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2012, 10:20:44 PM »
FO1 has a lot of balance issues, especially in terms of armor. Eventually you'll take no damage until someone does a critical roll with an automatic weapon that normally does zero damage and suddenly hits you for 300+. FO2 cleaned them up a little, and FO3 used a similar system. FONV you can make yourself basically invulnerable again, though it's way easier to avoid damage outright in 3/NV.

I really love playing FO1/2 still. But then, right at this moment I'm tabbed out of X-Com. I really love turn based games like that.

FO1 is definitely not a hard game, and the problem with the difficulty setting is that it doesn't actually make the game harder.. flat lowering your non-combat skills just cuts you out of certain things, and lowering your combat skills doesn't actually make anything but the first few levels harder. The hard parts tend to be noticing all the things the game wants you to do, and the ways around them, and finding all the side quests. No big yellow ! for you!

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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2012, 10:25:47 PM »
No big yellow ! for you!

I hates it!   >:(

I loves it!  :-*

I hates it!

I loves it!

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Re: Another Fallout Thread
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 04:45:10 AM »
I will probably finish in the next day or two and then start on FO2. Unlike FO, I have no idea what to expect in terms of storyline, and I will avoid cheating. Tips anyone?

Don't bother with the car. They never did get that quite right...

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Re: Another Fallout Thread
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2012, 06:30:15 AM »
Don't bother with the car. They never did get that quite right...
I only ever had the car vanish once.

Oh, if you do decide to get the car, put a stash of power cells / fusion cells in the boot just in case you run out of fuel.  Having to abandon the car (and all the gear you've got stashed) because you used the last of your energy weapon ammo in a fight sucks more than explosive decompression.

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Re: Another Fallout Thread
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 09:41:24 AM »
I personally never bothered with the car in any of my playthroughs; I felt it killed the whole post apocalyptic theme. Also I'm sure any villager would have it impounded by the NCR for DWCP (Drinking While Completely Pissed).
The sun beyond the mountain glows
The yellow river seaward flows
You can enjoy a grander sight
By climbing to a greater height

I have run out of places to climb. I will abandon this body and take to the air. We will leave twin vapor trails in the air, white lines etched into these rocks. I am the aerial. In my passing, I will send news to each and every star.

Mrs Brown says: 'Hapiness is an effect, not a goal.'

Charlie is yelling @barit0wned
PC: A spider laid eggs inside my body and I need to get them out before they hatch
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Re: Another Fallout Thread
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 02:06:01 PM »
I'm not sure whether it was a patch or one of the restoration mods but I remember that the car appeared on the map as outta power if you left it without power in the desert.

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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2012, 02:10:02 PM »
With the aforementioned random encounter rate, I found the car greatly reduced the frustration of getting from place to place.  Only got three encounters between Klamath and Den instead of 20.

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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2012, 04:35:28 PM »
Also, Killap's unoffocial FO2 patch is a great thing. It fixes many of the bugs that Black Isle never got around to fixing, particularly some quest bugs, some ending montage bugs (usually related to quest bugs), and the rest of the car bugs.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2012, 06:47:58 PM »
Also, Killap's unoffocial FO2 patch is a great thing.

What he said.

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Re: Another Fallout Thread
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2012, 11:57:22 PM »
Must say, until I played New Vegas, I didn't even realize how many little details in FO3 sort of bugged me. Not that I didn't enjoy it, though. It's just that New Vegas felt...real...er Fallout experience.