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The new Star Trek movie
« on: January 27, 2008, 11:05:08 PM »
So the new teaser trailer for the upcoming film has been revealed. Just let the site load and it'll stream down.

Teaser Trailer

It does look fairly impressive, but tells very little about the film itself. I have to admit it's a bit weird seeing the Enterprise like that too. Though a big part of me does think the entire Trek franchise should be laid to rest for a few years before something new appears. I don't have very high hopes for the film personally, it's going to be extremely difficult after 42 years seeing the likes of Kirk and McCoy being played by someone else.
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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 04:30:48 AM »
Quote from: Petrarch on January 27, 2008, 11:05:08 PM
...I don't have very high hopes for the film personally, it's going to be extremely difficult after 42 years seeing the likes of Kirk and McCoy being played by someone else.

I hear you there, but on the other hand, it was pretty difficult to see the original cast play themselves after the first few movies.  Right around Star Trek 4 was when it started to get too unbelievable.  I could buy 50-year-old Kirk still kicking ass and nailing green women in Wrath of Kahn, but when he was 60-ish, and fat, and the toupee didn't quite blend with his remaining hair as well as it used to, it just didn't seem as likely for him to be seducing marine biologists and blue shapeshifters; and when Spock, a member of a species that ages at about 1/6 the rate that humans do, looked like the most weathered cast member (a testament to the ravages of smoking, by the way), then it really became hard to watch.

I wonder if they could do some sort of "Gumping" or CGI to put the original cast, when they were in their prime, into a new movie.  The surviving cast could provide their own voices, and they could get some impersonators for Scotty and McCoy.  THAT is one I'd see.

Better yet, just do a feature length version of the cartoon series from the '70s.
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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 06:19:26 AM »
I think Quinto will make an awesome Spock. =)

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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 01:20:26 PM »
I'd rahter have another TNG movie than a repeat of the original series. I hate when they redo something with new actors. Besides, the original series wasn't half as good as TNG.
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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2008, 03:38:09 PM »
Quote from: Doombot on January 29, 2008, 06:19:26 AM
I think Quinto will make an awesome Spock. =)


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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2008, 06:17:33 PM »
And his nose doesn't look very Spockian...
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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2009, 10:27:39 AM »
Well I just saw it and it's... awesome.

Spoilers ahead.

Depending on how you look at it, it's not the Enterprise crew that we know. The timeline's been changed (Star trek LOVES time travel) so while they're still Kirk, Spock, and all the rest their history is different.

Kirk loses his father, Spock's mother dies, Vulcan is destroyed, etc. So this history will never have certain stories happen. Spock's mother will never be on the ship to Babel, Kirk will never have his father at his graduation, the crew will not journey to Vulcan after retrieving Spock from the Genesis Planet, etc.

So if you can get around the fact that it's not the 'old' crew and realize that you'll never see Shatner and the rest in a regular Star Trek movie, it becomes more fun.

Pros

Great Action.
Talented actors all around. Quinto is AWESOME as Spock. Urban is awesome McCoy.
Nearly everyone got a chance to shine. Scotty had a bit less time but still great.
Fan service! From throw away lines to insider jokes, it was there. Can we all guess what happens to the crewmember in red?

Cons

Vulcan is destroyed. I like Vulcans.
Lens flares. Good golly they love lens flares. It's like someone just discovering a photoshop filter. Lens flares constantly though the movie.

Go see it in IMAX if you can.
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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2009, 04:20:22 AM »
Totally conflicted about this one.

First of all, in its own right, it was a fantastic movie.  As previously mentioned, Quinto was brilliant and the rest of the cast shined also.

However, the "oh, by the way, all the other star trek series and movies never actually happened" really cheesed me.  I know they had to do something about the fact that in some areas current technology actually exceeds that displayed in TOS, but I find it difficult to suspend my disbelief that a single starship being destroyed 25 years ago could change the timeline so drastically.

Anyway, as I say, a good movie on its own and definitely worth seeing.  It'll just take some time for me to adjust to the new timeline.
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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2009, 06:54:48 AM »
Quote from: Bubonic on May 11, 2009, 04:20:22 AM
However, the "oh, by the way, all the other star trek series and movies never actually happened" really cheesed me.  I know they had to do something about the fact that in some areas current technology actually exceeds that displayed in TOS, but I find it difficult to suspend my disbelief that a single starship being destroyed 25 years ago could change the timeline so drastically.

Right now it's being debated. It's either:

A changed timeline

or

A alternate timeline seperate from the original timeline. eg. A timeline that would have ended exactly like 'our' timeline if Nero didn't show up.

For the technology...

(This one's a bit of a stretch)

During the battle with Kirk's dad, portions of Nero's ship were found. Just enough was found (and reversed engineered) to make the Enterprise look different.
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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2009, 11:35:46 PM »
Quote from: Bubonic on May 11, 2009, 04:20:22 AM
However, the "oh, by the way, all the other star trek series and movies never actually happened" really cheesed me.  I know they had to do something about the fact that in some areas current technology actually exceeds that displayed in TOS, but I find it difficult to suspend my disbelief that a single starship being destroyed 25 years ago could change the timeline so drastically.

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Quote from: Doombot on May 11, 2009, 06:54:48 AM
Right now it's being debated. It's either:

A changed timeline
or
A alternate timeline seperate from the original timeline. eg. A timeline that would have ended exactly like 'our' timeline if Nero didn't show up.

The official response is that it's a divergent timeline.  I.E.  Like Donnie Darko, except the continued existence of the divergent timeline isn't going to end the existence of both.  It's just a way to make a Star Trek movie that is fresh and exciting and not bogged down by 40+ years of continuity and at the same time doesn't negate everything Star Trek except for Enterprise and portions of First Contact.  Basically, it's like what Marvel did with their Ultimate line.  So all the Trekkies out there can relax.  The original crew, the Next Generation crew, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise are all still in continuity in the original timeline. 

I think they did it this way so they didn't get a bunch of convoluted angry letters from Trekkies about how Scotty's hairstyle conflicts with Official Star Trek Paperback #86: The Obsidian Parallax Factor (Copyright, 1972).

Also, in the divergent timeline, Uhura's hot!

Doomsie, any jokes about Sulu?  Did that guy from Harold and Kumar do "George Takei Voice"TM through the whole thing?

Now what they really need to do is make a movie of that book where the Next Generation crew teams up with the X Men.
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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2009, 01:42:26 AM »
Quote from: Loveshack on May 11, 2009, 11:35:46 PM
Doomsie, any jokes about Sulu?  Did that guy from Harold and Kumar do "George Takei Voice"TM through the whole thing?

The people that really sounded close to their counterparts were Bones, Scotty, and Chekov. Chekov had the thickest access of all. Spock had that calm precision to his voice though...

So no... "Oh MY!" from Sulu.

He did get to use his fencing skills. =)
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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2009, 04:47:36 AM »
Quote from: Doombot on May 12, 2009, 01:42:26 AM
The people that really sounded close to their counterparts were Bones...

Yeah, I hear Karl Urban is eerily good as Dr. McCoy, like to the point that it's scaring some people.  I'm convinced I'm living in some sort of whacky comic universe now, where I can honestly say that the guy from Doom and Pathfinder is good at something.
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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2009, 05:56:39 AM »
Hrm.. gotta say it was pretty good.

Im kind of conflicted on if I want to see more done with this or not. I can accept the whole 'different timeline' deal especially since it does avoid the whole issue with matching everyhing up..
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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2009, 06:35:55 AM »
Quote from: Loveshack on May 12, 2009, 04:47:36 AM
Quote from: Doombot on May 12, 2009, 01:42:26 AM
The people that really sounded close to their counterparts were Bones...

Yeah, I hear Karl Urban is eerily good as Dr. McCoy, like to the point that it's scaring some people.  I'm convinced I'm living in some sort of whacky comic universe now, where I can honestly say that the guy from Doom and Pathfinder is good at something.

Not really fair. He was awesome in the LOTR trilogy.
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Re: The new Star Trek movie
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2009, 02:40:41 PM »
Quote from: Brugdor on May 12, 2009, 06:35:55 AM
Quote from: Loveshack on May 12, 2009, 04:47:36 AM
Quote from: Doombot on May 12, 2009, 01:42:26 AM
The people that really sounded close to their counterparts were Bones...

Yeah, I hear Karl Urban is eerily good as Dr. McCoy, like to the point that it's scaring some people.  I'm convinced I'm living in some sort of whacky comic universe now, where I can honestly say that the guy from Doom and Pathfinder is good at something.

Not really fair. He was awesome in the LOTR trilogy.

And the Bourne movies.
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