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J.K. Rowling's insanity continues...
« on: October 22, 2007, 02:14:45 PM »
...with the revelation that Dumbledore is a big old homo now.

Awesome!

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1674069,00.html?imw=Y

and I officially think J.K. Rowling, while a supremely talented writer and storyboard artist, is a terrible author.  You really can't just hold press conferences after your books come out and tell people the stuff going on outside the scope of the book in your megalomaniacal mind.  Well, okay, obviously she can, but it's terrible, terrible practice. 

Bear in mind that I don't care that Dumbledore is gay; there were enough clues in the books to easily lead to that conclusion.  I just think she's psychotic for trying to absolutely control every aspect of her characters outside of the confines of her books.  It started with the epilogue, continued with the press conferences where she laid out the lives of some of the other minor characters, and will probably continue after this.  Whatever happened to consistent, canonical universes definied entirely by works of fiction and supporting texts that allow for some imagination and interpretation on the part of the reader?

I mean, clearing up a confusing passage or clarifying the meaning of a piece of symbolism is one thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if her next press conference reveals that Lucius Malfoy was secretly a woman.

Blech.

Oh, hey, I heard that C.S. Lewis came back from the dead to confirm that Tash is actually the symbolic representation of Islam, and that as a result the Chronicles of Narnia call for a revival of the Crusades.  So, you know.  That's awesome.
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Re: J.K. Rowling's insanity continues...
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2007, 03:22:42 PM »
Oh, hey, I heard that C.S. Lewis came back from the dead to confirm that Tash is actually the symbolic representation of Islam, and that as a result the Chronicles of Narnia call for a revival of the Crusades.  So, you know.  That's awesome.

Yeah, JRR Tolkien came back and said that Sam and Frodo were also gay. He claims he never had intended it, but after watching the movies, like every other critic he came to the conclusion that they HAD to be gay, and not just friends, and that if you think otherwise you're a homophobe.

Or a "queerboner." Yup, Tolkien said queerboner. But it's charming with an English accent.
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Re: J.K. Rowling's insanity continues...
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2007, 04:00:12 PM »
I'm just worried about what effect this outing will have on the book's skyrocketing popularity with hardline Christian groups stateside...

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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2007, 06:35:15 PM »
definitely more interested in the writer's strike
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2007, 09:49:25 PM »
Whatever happened to consistent, canonical universes definied entirely by works of fiction and supporting texts that allow for some imagination and interpretation on the part of the reader?

They went out of fashion with the debut of Star Wars Episode 1:  The Phantom Menace.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2007, 04:29:39 PM »
It's bad form supported by megalomania, but it's partly also caused by a pushy press. 

To put it simply, this is hardly the first time that an author has stated facts like this outside of the book.  However, she is the first to seek and find publication of her 'unofficial canon'. 

The epilogue was actually acceptable in my view much as the ending of 'Animal House' or any number of films or books than use similar techniques.  But her efforts to control the world outside of books is frankly embarrassing.  I still hold to a bet I have with a coworker that 'seven isn't enough for her, her next book will be number eight and be in the same universe, just focusing on Neville.'

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Re: J.K. Rowling's insanity continues...
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2007, 05:00:29 PM »
I'm just worried about what effect this outing will have on the book's skyrocketing popularity with hardline Christian groups stateside...
Probably none.

Seriously, the only people who pay any serious attention to the extreme religious right over here are they themselves, and candidates during election years as they try to rape any votes they can by any means available.

Well, and the occasional nut living in a compound in Montana or Arkansas or something, but we pay even less attention to them than the religious right.

Frankly, I could care less whether the old guy is straight, gay, or likes to get his freak on with goats.  It makes absolutely no difference to the story, which is why I must agree that really, Rowling should just STFU and write the books.  Character details that have no direct impact to the story you're telling should be left to the audience to flesh out.  It goes back to that whole "imagination" thing that, y'know, those things called books have made use of for centuries in order to bring the audience in, and make them feel closer to the characters by building their own ties and conclusions.

If you want to make your book political, or it's somehow pertinent to the story at hand to make one of the secondary characters gay, then have the gonads to put it in your book to begin with.  If you don't, be quiet, I'm reading.

Back to the idea of what impact this may or may not have on the popularity of the books themselves, again, I say very little.  If anything, it will probably be more positive (overall) than anything else, since controversy always draws a crowd.  Sure, there's probably already some idiot somewhere burning their kid's book collection, but for every one of them there's probably at least 10 others going, "Really?  Wow.  I gotta check this out and see what all the fuss is about."

Americans love a show, and for most of them, it doesn't even matter if the show is actually any good.  If it gives them something to point and laugh at, or some means by which to step out of their own sad little lives for five minutes and focus on someone else and their problems, it's all gravy.  In the end though, we're basically a nation of rubber-neckers.  We see a car crash on the interstate, we just *have* to stop and have a look, no matter how horrific it might be.  Dollars to doughnuts gets you, this won't really be much different.  Some people will scream bloody murder about "the corruption of children and traditional family values", others will scream just as loudly about the "fair and equal representation of the gay community in mainstream media", and most people will just shrug and go, "Eh, good book. Someone pass the salt."

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Re: J.K. Rowling's insanity continues...
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2007, 12:29:27 AM »
I liked the epilogue but I'm starting to tire of the updates to the characters lives.

If I want to know about Neville, Mrs Norris or Professor Sprout I'd rather read about it in a upcoming book than a press release.



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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2007, 02:42:16 PM »
considering the audience question was 'does dumbledore ever find true love?' i find her answer a bit disturbing.

regardless of whether he is gay in her mind or not, should have no bearing on whether he finds love or not.

do gay people not find true love? do they just get some second-hand, not real true love cause they're the same sex kind-of love?

her answer makes me think she was just trying to create controversy where there needn't be one.
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2007, 09:47:20 PM »
Or she is really truly certifiably wacko.
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Re: J.K. Rowling's insanity continues...
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2007, 10:00:10 PM »
considering the audience question was 'does dumbledore ever find true love?' i find her answer a bit disturbing.

regardless of whether he is gay in her mind or not, should have no bearing on whether he finds love or not.

do gay people not find true love? do they just get some second-hand, not real true love cause they're the same sex kind-of love?

her answer makes me think she was just trying to create controversy where there needn't be one.
I got largely the same impression.

Reading through the article itself, my initial response was like, "Ok, so he's gay.  Gonna answer the question now that you've gone off on a completely unrelated tangent?"

Then I caught this little gem:
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Oh, my god," Rowling concluded with a laugh, "the fan fiction."

Left me with the overall feeling that she very much intended to create controversy and a "hot topic" .  Like I said, Americans (and really pretty much anyone else from what I've seen) love a show, and few things seem to be as suitable for good juicy 'theatre' as a nice heated debate between the extreme left and right.

I'm glad I'm more in the middle.  Let's me just kick back with a beer and laugh at them while they all make themselves look foolish.  ;)

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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2007, 10:09:11 PM »
Then I caught this little gem:
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Oh, my god," Rowling concluded with a laugh, "the fan fiction."
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I think the fan fic writers were already writing such stuff.




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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2007, 02:14:06 AM »
Half-Blood Prince, pg 312.

This younger Albus Dumbledore's long hair and beard were auburn. Having reached their side of the street, he strode off along the pavement, drawing many curious glances due to the flamboyantly cut suit of plum velvet that he was wearing.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2007, 02:24:11 AM »
you're really excited about this, arent you?

or are you just really that bored today?
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Re: J.K. Rowling's insanity continues...
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2007, 03:00:26 AM »
you're really excited about this, arent you?

or are you just really that bored today?

Actually... I called my boyfriend and told him I was bored. Then ran into a friend and he went. Hey! I heard you were bored today.

True story. =)
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