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General Discussion => Unwashed Village => Topic started by: BlueCross on April 17, 2009, 07:02:47 PM

Title: "compelling and overwhelming"
Post by: BlueCross on April 17, 2009, 07:02:47 PM
EPA clears way for regulation of greenhouse gasses:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/18/science/earth/18endanger.html?hp


The Cliff Notes version:

"Their studies showed that concentrations of these gases are at unprecedented levels as a result of human activity, the agency said, and these high levels are very likely responsible for the increase in average temperatures and other changes in the earth’s climate."

"Among the ill effects of rising atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide and the other gases, the agency found, were increased drought, more heavy downpours and flooding, more frequent and intense heat waves and wildfires, a steeper rise in sea levels, more intense storms and harm to water resources, agriculture, wildlife and ecosystems."

"The era of defying science and the Supreme Court has ended.”
Title: Re: "compelling and overwhelming"
Post by: Brugdor on April 17, 2009, 07:15:21 PM
EPA clears way for regulation of greenhouse gasses:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/18/science/earth/18endanger.html?hp


The Cliff Notes version:

"Their studies showed that concentrations of these gases are at unprecedented levels as a result of human activity, the agency said, and these high levels are very likely responsible for the increase in average temperatures and other changes in the earth’s climate."

In other words, they still don't know for sure and are basing it off climate models which have repeatedly been proven inaccurate.

Oh and good luck with that anyway.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/apr/09/shipping-pollution
Title: Re: "compelling and overwhelming"
Post by: BlueCross on April 17, 2009, 07:16:57 PM
EPA clears way for regulation of greenhouse gasses:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/18/science/earth/18endanger.html?hp


The Cliff Notes version:

"Their studies showed that concentrations of these gases are at unprecedented levels as a result of human activity, the agency said, and these high levels are very likely responsible for the increase in average temperatures and other changes in the earth’s climate."

In other words, they still don't know for sure and are basing it off climate models which have repeatedly been proven inaccurate.

Gee, there's a surprise response from you.  Who woulda expected that?
Title: Re: "compelling and overwhelming"
Post by: Brugdor on April 17, 2009, 07:20:03 PM
EPA clears way for regulation of greenhouse gasses:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/18/science/earth/18endanger.html?hp


The Cliff Notes version:

"Their studies showed that concentrations of these gases are at unprecedented levels as a result of human activity, the agency said, and these high levels are very likely responsible for the increase in average temperatures and other changes in the earth’s climate."

In other words, they still don't know for sure and are basing it off climate models which have repeatedly been proven inaccurate.

Gee, there's a surprise response from you.  Who woulda expected that?


How about explaining to me how the climate is defying the models they get their numbers from. How is that possible if they are accurate at all?

Edit - please keep in mind (as you may have forgotten) that I'm all for lowering pollution levels if it's done responsibly. Just as an example, the irresponsible way to address the ship issue I linked above would be to stop shipping by boat entirely until a solution could be found. The responsible way would be to find a solution that doesn't cost countless jobs and resources and then apply it at a rate that also doesn't cost countless jobs and resources.